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TambaBerry · 12-26-2016, 08:36 AM

Can someone please explain to me why our offensive line sucks so bad? We can't open up any holes for Ware, we can't push the ball in from the one yard line, we also let guys run free into the backfield. Is it coaching? Do our players just suck?

Sandy Vagina · 12-26-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

His point was valid

was valid, but dude was a bit of an ass about it.

The OL looked to have done a decent job against DEN, to me. Sure.. there were times that Ware had to make his yards on his own. Times where Smith took some crazy quick pressures/hits. That's just gonna happen against that D, and when the KC line is more finesse than brute force.

Not at all a great OL this season, as hoped, but they are also out of the bottom tier for the first time in the Andy era.

RunKC · 12-26-2016, 11:25 AM

West was actually running well when they weren't doing the dumbass draw handoffs.

2bikemike · 12-26-2016, 12:24 PM

The O-line will.have it's hands full again next week against the bolts. I hope they can put together a string of games similar to last nights.

Hoover · 12-26-2016, 12:30 PM

Our running backs lack the necessary explosion to blow through the holes when they exist.

West was given a giant hole and only got a couple yards. Jamaal would have made a huge gain.

RINGLEADER · 12-26-2016, 12:31 PM

Fisher is fine.
Morris is fine.
Scwartz has come on lately and is fine.

Our guards are the problem. Fulton is obviously filling in so I think we're okay long-term there with Eingerer and LDT is OK but could be improved upon, but that's just a fan analysis.

RINGLEADER · 12-26-2016, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Our running backs lack the necessary explosion to blow through the holes when they exist.

West was given a giant hole and only got a couple yards. Jamaal would have made a huge gain.

This too.

**Smed1065** · 12-26-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

One other point about the offensive line. Last night during the game, they mentioned Smith's release as one of the quickest in the NFL at 2.25 seconds. That is what Manning did to mask the shit offensive line in Dungver. Is our line as good as we think it is of is Alex making it look better than it is?

Beat me to it...

**Easy 6** · 12-26-2016, 12:45 PM

I'm not here to berate the op, this line clearly isnt as good as most of us thought it would be this year

But the timing is definitely bad, coming off a blowout win over a top 3 defense in which we surrendered no sacks and had a good running average

The run blocking showed clear improvement last night, they looked physical for the first time in a long time... I was pleased overall

chefs fan in omaha · 12-26-2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Spencer Ware averages almost five yards per carry, the Chiefs rush for 238 yards, and the offensive line doesn't allow a sack in 37 pass attempts to the best pass rushing duo in the NFL. Guess it's time to start a thread bitching about the offensive line.

I agree, most teams with 11 Or 12 win seasons Olines usually suck

BryanBusby · 12-26-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

One other point about the offensive line. Last night during the game, they mentioned Smith's release as one of the quickest in the NFL at 2.25 seconds. That is what Manning did to mask the shit offensive line in Dungver. Is our line as good as we think it is of is Alex making it look better than it is?

Smith helps the line but also hurts them.

Having a fast release is helpful, yes. Being the king of dink and dunk and giving the Defenses the luxury of sending a lot of guys without having to worry about a huge play puts extra pressure on them. His fixation of stepping up into the pressure doesn't help, either.

Demonpenz · 12-26-2016, 01:29 PM

When you don't run a nfl offense you don't need an nfl quality line. The WR really are pretty shitty at blocking. Maclin is a total bust

FloridaMan88 · 12-26-2016, 02:23 PM

I think it is safe to say that Donald Stephenson not being a part of the Chiefs offensive line is a good thing.

That was re-confirmed last night.

Chiefshrink · 12-26-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

More suck than anything IMO.
I'm not overly high on the O-line scouting so far in the Dorsey/Reid era, but its not like its any worse than during Pioli's tenure.

Funny. Out here in Denver obviously Elway has been praised up and down for the last 4yrs BUT now that he has very little running game and has literally watched his o-line crumble like a house of cards this season, the die hard educated fans and objective sports press out here are now starting to scrutinize his draft picks along the o-line.

Chiefshrink · 12-26-2016, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

I think it is safe to say that Donald Stephenson not being a part of the Chiefs offensive line is a good thing.

That was re-confirmed last night.

Yes, and I assure you Elway and Kubiak have learned especially this last half of their season why JD/AR chose to let DS go.

Pitt Gorilla · 12-26-2016, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

I know we had a good game guys, I'm not talking shit on the Chiefs. Alex got hit hard many times last, our rb got lit up in the back field by unblocked guys. We've struggled all year to push the ball in from the one yard line. That's what I'm trying to discuss. Don't take this shit so personally, just a discussion is all.

there were times last night where Denver had 9 in the box. Nine. It's hard for me to put that on the line.

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RINGLEADER In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Confusion, USA Casino cash: $8070503	Fisher is fine. Morris is fine. Scwartz has come on lately and is fine. Our guards are the problem. Fulton is obviously filling in so I think we're okay long-term there with Eingerer and LDT is OK but could be improved upon, but that's just a fan analysis.
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $17775	I'm not here to berate the op, this line clearly isnt as good as most of us thought it would be this year But the timing is definitely bad, coming off a blowout win over a top 3 defense in which we surrendered no sacks and had a good running average The run blocking showed clear improvement last night, they looked physical for the first time in a long time... I was pleased overall
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