Ok everyone is thinking it we better sign Eric Berry

[chiefscafan]

Do you think there is anyway we don't?

[chiefzilla1501]

Dorsey has been incredible at finding talent.

But he got one thing very wrong. Enough with trying to surround Andy Reid and Alex Smith with offensive talent. We need to load up and build a powerhouse defense.

It seems like every time this team takes a haircut, they ask Bob Sutton to do more with less. Sign Berry. Sign Poe. Cut Charles. Sign Mitchell. Bring in ILBs. Unless we get a steal, we should not make a single move on offense except trying to find our QBOTF.

[BossChief]

Berry is going to be a Falcon.

[KranzDictum]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Dorsey has been incredible at finding talent.

But he got one thing very wrong. Enough with trying to surround Andy Reid and Alex Smith with offensive talent. We need to load up and build a powerhouse defense.

It seems like every time this team takes a haircut, they ask Bob Sutton to do more with less. Sign Berry. Sign Poe. Cut Charles. Sign Mitchell. Bring in ILBs. Unless we get a steal, we should not make a single move on offense except trying to find our QBOTF.

Is Dorsey coming back? I heard the Packers were interested in him as their GM. Is that true?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Berry is going to be a Falcon.

But they drafted Keanu Neal last year

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KranzDictum

Is Dorsey coming back? I heard the Packers were interested in him as their GM. Is that true?

Your guess is as good as mine. Nobody seems to know what's actually going on there.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

I love eric berry, and im sure ill get shit for this beacuse of all the wonderful things he did for us this season, but I honestly think Poe is more valuable than Berry, when people go comparing them.. Not only is Poe 2 years younger, Im also a firm believer that the front 7, or in other words D-Line, is what makes a secondary great. You could have the best DB's/Safetys in the world, but if you dont have a Line that can apply pressure or close up the gaps, your "best" safety's and DB's in the world will get eaten up alive by the better QB's in this league....

If there is a way we can keep both Poe and Berry sign me up, However I still believe Poe is the better one to sign long term, and let Berry go try and win a ring on a different contender.

The front 7 just gave up 170 yards on the ground. Poe did nothing to change that. They were pushed around in the first meeting as well, and that was with a healthy DJ.

Maybe it's the back issues, but Poe has been underwhelming two seasons in a row now, while Berry has been a freakin' all star.

Im all for keepin' Poe. I think he's a good player. GREAT player he is not. He's a +starter, not replacement level, not a JAG....but not an All Pro either.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Poe is just a fatty in the middle. He's nothing special. You can get the same production from any 4th rounder

I like Poe quite a bit. But if he's expensive, Jaye Howard has done fine in the Nose Tackle role, and Howard isn't that expensive.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I like Poe quite a bit. But if he's expensive, Jaye Howard has done fine in the Nose Tackle role, and Howard isn't that expensive.

This. Would love to keep Poe at a reasonable deal. But if it comes to Poe vs Berry, Berry has him beat in production, resume & intangibles.

[Chromatic]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Dorsey has been incredible at finding talent.

But he got one thing very wrong. Enough with trying to surround Andy Reid and Alex Smith with offensive talent. We need to load up and build a powerhouse defense.

It seems like every time this team takes a haircut, they ask Bob Sutton to do more with less. Sign Berry. Sign Poe. Cut Charles. Sign Mitchell. Bring in ILBs. Unless we get a steal, we should not make a single move on offense except trying to find our QBOTF.

awesome, can't wait to lose 10-7 again in the divisional round

no offense

[KranzDictum]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

The front 7 just gave up 170 yards on the ground. Poe did nothing to change that. They were pushed around in the first meeting as well, and that was with a healthy DJ.

Maybe it's the back issues, but Poe has been underwhelming two seasons in a row now, while Berry has been a freakin' all star.

Im all for keepin' Poe. I think he's a good player. GREAT player he is not. He's a +starter, not replacement level, not a JAG....but not an All Pro either.

Poe did fine, Bell is a great back, I thought the DE's were the ones getting pushed around allowing Bell to wait, pick his hole then explode through it. There were some plays where he attacked inside rather than get around the edge which was open but he did enough to help win the game.

I wonder if they dropped Houston so much because they didn't think Bell would run outside and didn't need him to set the edge. Not having Houston stuffing the run hurt a lot and he was terrible in coverage. Maybe they didn't want him torquing his knee trying to move guys around in the run game? I thought it was odd he wasn't his normal force in the run game last night.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

The front 7 just gave up 170 yards on the ground. Poe did nothing to change that. They were pushed around in the first meeting as well, and that was with a healthy DJ.

Maybe it's the back issues, but Poe has been underwhelming two seasons in a row now, while Berry has been a freakin' all star.

Im all for keepin' Poe. I think he's a good player. GREAT player he is not. He's a +starter, not replacement level, not a JAG....but not an All Pro either.

Listen I'm all for Berry staying bc he's the leader of the team, but be honest here.

Berry got torched again by a TE in the playoffs and played really bad coverage.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Listen I'm all for Berry staying bc he's the leader of the team, but be honest here.

Berry got torched again by a TE in the playoffs and played really bad coverage.

Berry got beat on one play that i can recall, in which the whole freaking defense bit hard. At the end of the day, it didn't matter much since he took the ball right back with an All-Pro fingertip interception.

Berry is a great player. Great players aren't invincible. They're going to get beat from time to time.

I don't recall this "really bad coverage". The entire night Ben was dinking and dunking off the play action pass, had ALLLL day to throw, and the defense was ran on all night.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Berry got beat on one play that i can recall, in which the whole freaking defense bit hard. At the end of the day, it didn't matter much since he took the ball right back with an All-Pro fingertip interception.

Berry is a great player. Great players aren't invincible. They're going to get beat from time to time.

I don't recall this "really bad coverage". The entire night Ben was dinking and dunking off the play action pass, had ALLLL day to throw, and the defense was ran on all night.

He failed to help Houston with Antonio Brown. Watch the replay, it is so bad how far off he was from ANY receiver. Very obvious who we he needed to help.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

He failed to help Houston with Antonio Brown. Watch the replay, it is so bad how far off he was from ANY receiver. Very obvious who we he needed to help.

In what world should Houston be covering Brown in the first damn place?

[Prison Bitch]

Not me. Houston became a lazy turd when he got his $$$ no guarantees with these dudes