Reuben Foster visited the Chiefs today

[Dante84]

Per Ian Rappapotomus

[Sandy Vagina]

Wasn't really impressed with Anthony Walker, but in the 4th/5th, it would be tolerable. Not sure I'd waste much on a rd 4/5 guy.. would he be any better than what we have?

I'm really liking this:

rd 1 - Foster, Reddick, Davis
rd 2 - McMillan

rd 3 - Riley (for coverage), Beckwith (for thumping)
rd 4 - Blair (tackling machine, excellent run defender, quick, but a bit short), Jordan Evans (very fast, excellent cover LB), or Harvey Langi (thumper, good range, but raw for ILB)

Hope we get a day 1 or 2 option though.

[DJ's left nut]

Davis isn't a Rd1 consideration at all, IMO. Way too much depth in the class at edge and DB and he's not good enough in coverage.

Foster and Reddick, sure. Davis in the 2nd. McMillan in the 2nd is a little early but he probably doesn't fall to late 3. Riley and Beckwith also feel early in the 3rd, especially with Beckwith's ACL injury; I could see Riley with the comp but I wouldn't take Beckwith before the 4th; he had coverage concerns before his knee gave out and there's no telling how he bounces back and if the lost development means you're giving him a redshirt year.

I'd consider Anzalone in the 4th as well. Love the player; hate the health history.

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Wasn't really impressed with Anthony Walker, but in the 4th/5th, it would be tolerable. Not sure I'd waste much on a rd 4/5 guy.. would he be any better than what we have?

I'm really liking this:

rd 1 - Foster, Reddick, Davis
rd 2 - McMillan

rd 3 - Riley (for coverage), Beckwith (for thumping)
rd 4 - Blair (tackling machine, excellent run defender, quick, but a bit short), Jordan Evans (very fast, excellent cover LB), or Harvey Langi (thumper, good range, but raw for ILB)

Hope we get a day 1 or 2 option though.

What didn't you like about Walker?

I wouldn't be opposed to Langi. I like projects...they usually go one way or the other and you can decide what the next move is quickly.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Jakemall

What didn't you like about Walker?

I wouldn't be opposed to Langi. I like projects...they usually go one way or the other and you can decide what the next move is quickly.

Will have to go back and look. It was quite a while ago that I checked his performances out.. don't really remember. I only remembered that I was underwhelmed with him.

DJL, I think the coverage limitations.. while they exist.. are overblown on Beckwith. LSU kept him on the field quite a bit in obvious pass downs. I think it's inaccurate to lump him in with so many large LBs that did in fact suck in coverage. Fair point on the injury and recovery time though.

If optimistic on that much, I think 3rd rd is good value for what he can bring.. at least for a teams in need of a thumper that can cover ground well for his size. If optimistic about the injury, why just the 3rd? well.. because his instincts outside of the box are not top shelf.

[kccrow]

Walker is the most slept on LB in this class. He's outstanding, but gets absolutely zero love having played for one of the BIG's cellar dwellers. The only time he struggled was early this year when he had a nagging injury that slowed him down. When he got going, he was back to his old self, dominating. This kid literally shut down Christian McCaffrey single-handedly in 2015. The guy is a perfect fit at WILB for KC and I'd be extremely surprised if he went later than round 3.

[staylor26]

Reeves Maybin continues to be the forgotten prospect that could turn out to be a steal if that shoulder holds up.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Reeves Maybin continues to be the forgotten prospect that could turn out to be a steal if that shoulder holds up.

I'd agree.

Linebackers and shoulder injuries are always very worrisome though. Big reason Anzalone isn't being considered a top 40 prospect.

If Reeves-Maybin's shoulder does check out, I'd think he'd come off the board by round 4. Big problem with him running a 4.72 at his size though, might scare some teams off a bit on top of the shoulder.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I'd agree.

Linebackers and shoulder injuries are always very worrisome though. Big reason Anzalone isn't being considered a top 40 prospect.

If Reeves-Maybin's shoulder does check out, I'd think he'd come off the board by round 4. Big problem with him running a 4.72 at his size though, might scare some teams off a bit on top of the shoulder.

Worse than just the physical concern are the mental ones - A LBer with a balky shoulder is going to flinch for awhile when it comes time to fill a gap or take on a blocker/runner.

You'll see a lot of picking at the line and drag tackling until the guy is absolutely certain that shoulder is sound. And then if he aggravates it again, he may just be worthless for good because he never gets the injury out of the back of his mind.

You're absolutely right - a guy like Anzalone is among the better LB talents in this class but it's just really hard to pull the trigger on a guy with shoulder injuries.

[Chief Northman]

Why are so many pimping Haason Reddick?

He is a TERRIBLE football player.
Bad angles, little physicality, slow processor. I don't know what this guy has done to merit 1st round consideration. He must have blackmail tape on somebody. Too many people likely watched highlight tape versus game tape. Watch his game against USF. Invisible.

It baffles me each year as to why some media outlets promote certain guys who have little football accumen on film but maybe test well, have personality, or flash in an all-star game like a Sr. Bowl where the rules and the schemes cater to certain styles of play.

I'm calling Reddick the 2017 draft bust now.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Why are so many pimping Haason Reddick?

He is a TERRIBLE football player.
Bad angles, little physicality, slow processor. I don't know what this guy has done to merit 1st round consideration. He must have blackmail tape on somebody. Too many people likely watched highlight tape versus game tape. Watch his game against USF. Invisible.

It baffles me each year as to why some media outlets promote certain guys who have little football accumen on film but maybe test well, have personality, or flash in an all-star game like a Sr. Bowl where the rules and the schemes cater to certain styles of play.

I'm calling Reddick the 2017 draft bust now.

A bad game or multiple bad games, that's really what you need to say. Reddick is getting love for his Senior season, which as a whole was very good. He's got the explosive index (71.6) and the productivity ratio (1.54) that suggest (not guarantee) he won't bust. He's also being projected to a position he didn't play in college because of his overall athletic traits and lack of traits to remain where he did play. He's very similar to Jamie Collins coming out. I loved Collins coming out, but noone ever saw him as a 1st round pick. He did however, go 52nd overall, which is about a round higher than I expected. Given how Collins' transformed and has performed, it seems analysts are convinced that teams will take a shot on a similar type of talent much earlier.