The NFL doesn't think Mahomes is a first rounder.

[kccrow]

The ascent of my man-crush on Mahomes... Probably more comedy gold in these...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=307108

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1. Patrick Mahomes II - QB - Texas Tech (6'2" 225)
Solidly built QB with a rocket arm and the ability to make throws on the run and off balance. Gunslinger mentality that can get him into to trouble at times, but if he learns to play less backyard football in a system that sets him up for success and better protection, he should ascend. Despite awkward deliveries at times, still hits a requisite completion percentage and has a healthy TD to INT ratio. Those numbers should improve in a more refined NFL. From all accounts he has the mental fortitude to learn an NFL offense and be successful. Boom or bust type with a big arm similar to Brett Favre and Matthew Stafford if he works at his craft. Excellent pocket awareness that allows him to run to extend plays. Generally sets his feet and delivers strikes to all areas of the field from a clean pocket. Most mechanical issues come to surface under pressure, but seems to make plays few QBs will make. Throws with good trajectory and touch on deep balls and corner routes. Lays balls softly into the hands of backs and tight ends underneath. Will need to learn to make read progressions after coming from Air Raid. Needs to become a better decision maker and lay off putting the ball in to crowded windows in the NFL.

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[The Franchise]

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What NFL scouts told the Journal Sentinel's Bob McGinn before the draft about quarterback Aaron Rodgers:

Marc Ross, Buffalo: "He's a little short. The thing you worry about is those (Jeff) Tedford guys. They don't do anything for a couple years and then they have a good year or two. Who of his quarterbacks has done what they're supposed to do? None of them. Is he just working magic with great college quarterbacks or just manufacturing guys?"

AFC scout: "I like him. He's a very talented guy. A lot of quarterbacks that were system people have not done very well. That puts up a red flag. Not that he is one of them. He could be an exception. But I can't get it out of my craw."

Rich Snead, Tennessee: "I like him. I just don't know if he's maxed out. He's more accurate than (Kyle) Boller but probably not as athletic. He's a better player than Akili Smith. He's more athletic than (Trent) Dilfer was. He's a little more mobile than Joey Harrington. He had to go to a JC because no one would recruit him because they said he was too small. He's been busting his (expletive) his whole life to get to this point. I just don't know how much more he has to give."

NFC scout: "(Alex) Smith is the better athlete."

AFC scout: "I think he has some upside although there are some things that are just ordinary about him."

Jerry Angelo, Chicago: "I'd give Rodgers the edge (over Smith) just because he was easier to evaluate. And there's a little more arm. But the edge is negligible."

NFC scout: "I think he has a good chance of being a bust. Just like every other Tedford-coached quarterback. Thing I struggle with him is he gets sacked a lot. He doesn't have great ability to change the release of the football. He's mechanically very rigid. Brett Favre can change his release point and find different windows. There will be more growing pains with Alex Smith but in the end he has a much better chance to be much better."

NFC scout: "The guys that Tedford has had, what have they developed into? They're too well-schooled. So mechanical. So robotic. I don't know if they become good pro players. I think Rodgers is in that same mold."

AFC scout: "I don't like him. He's a clone of Harrington and Boller. They all throw the same way. What have those guys done? Nothing. If you take him in the second round, fine. Heady guy. They do a marvelous job of coaching quarterbacks there. I don't think he's as good as the top quarterbacks coming out last year."

AFC scout: "I don't think he's in the class of the quarterbacks that came out last year. Strong arm. Pretty good athlete. Still has some holes in his game."

Bill Polian, Indianapolis: "I see a guy who has good arm strength. I see some athletic ability. I see a guy who was pretty good with a good team. I see a guy who's in a pretty efficient offense. Am I certain that he's going to come in and lead my team to the Promised Land? I can't say that. I'm not even sure I can say that about Alex Smith."

AFC scout: "He's a system quarterback. 3-, 5-, 7-step guy. Can't create on his own. Panics under pressure. Gets flustered easy. I don't think there's a quarterback in the draft worthy of a first-round pick. I'm dead serious. None of them are worth it."

NFC scout: "He fit right into the Cal system. He probably executed that as well as anybody. He doesn't have as strong an arm as Boller but can make the same reads and play the scheme as well as Boller did.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

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You could find a scout that would say this about any or all prospects.

[Chief Roundup]

That year it was between Smith and Rodgers for who would be the 1.1, it has been well covered with McCarthy supposedly telling Rodgers that he was going to be the pick at 1.1 If Rodgers was thought of as a project there would not have been all the talk about his fall down the 1st round and the video of him setting there waiting to be picked.
Keep it real instead of pushing your agenda.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

That year it was between Smith and Rodgers for who would be the 1.1, it has been well covered with McCarthy supposedly telling Rodgers that he was going to be the pick at 1.1 If Rodgers was thought of as a project there would not have been all the talk about his fall down the 1st round and the video of him setting there waiting to be picked.
Keep it real instead of pushing your agenda.

Yeah, I remember. I know this is old, but there's some revisionist history going on here. Most teams felt NEITHER guy was a #1 overall quality pick, but SF was awful and QB desperate after jettisoning Garcia and T.O.

It was pretty well known SF would pick one of the two (there was no consensus) and the other guy would fall at LEAST to the 15th pick. Multiple mocks predicted the slide of the 2nd QB. Rogers was a guy where people spent too much time scouting his school and the system he played in rather than his talent. "Oh, Tedford QB's always suck"

Most people felt SF was reaching for either guy, which is why they couldn't trade the pick. They tried to trade it too, because they knew they'd get the top QB if they did trade down. They could have traded down to 10 and got Smith. Most teams at the top of the draft didn't want EITHER GUY.

[staylor26]

AFC scout: "He's a system quarterback. 3-, 5-, 7-step guy. Can't create on his own. Panics under pressure. Gets flustered easy. I don't think there's a quarterback in the draft worthy of a first-round pick. I'm dead serious. None of them are worth it."

This one stuck out

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay

Maybe it was one of the Browns scouts who didnt think Wentz was a firet rounder

He's talking about Aaron Rodgers.

[O.city]

They'll do the same thing to next year's qb class, just as they always do. Frankly, at this point I dint really care to see what these scouts have to say. Disinfo, etc.

If the Chiefs think one of these dudes are worth developing, take him. If not, load up on defense, go from there.

[Dave Lane]

Every ****ing year some asshole and all the douche bags on chiefsplanet say this, every god damned year

AFC scout: "I don't think there's a quarterback in the draft worthy of a first-round pick. I'm dead serious. None of them are worth it."

Passes on Aaron Rogers. Smh.

[chiefscafan]

I think they are picking apart Watson like they did Matt Ryan because there is so much film on him.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

He had a TON of criticism...TON and that's why he dropped. You act like he was stud Rodgers when they drafted him.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

He had a TON of criticism...TON and that's why he dropped. You act like he was stud Rodgers when they drafted him.

Yeah and if Mahomes "drops" it will be right into the 3rd.

It's not a valid comparison.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Mahomes is going in the first, so....

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Mahomes is going in the first, so....

I highly doubt it.