Football Trade Deadline - Page 3

O.city · 08:59 AM

With their now being that extra WC spot and everyone being bunched up, there's gonna be alot of executives deluding themselves into thinking they have a shot.

Even with that said, I've never understood why more teams don't sell. Take the Raiders for instance and Josh Jacobs. He's clearly going elsewhere this offseason, so they probably think they could get a 3rd round comp pick. If the Saints beat them this weekend, why wouldn't you try to move him?

The Saints should trade anything that's not bolted down at this point, but I digress.

I know teams don't like to shit on their fanbase and sell because of tickets and blah blah blah.

Why dont' more teams sell though?

htismaqe · 10-26-2022, 09:44 AM

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That he’s probably too expensive in terms of draft capital.

He was talking about Skyy not DJ, I believe.

O.city · 10-26-2022, 09:46 AM

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It's not either/or. They should be looking to add anywhere and everywhere they can.

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I don't know how many times this needs to be said.

Yeah, you can only add what's available.

Discuss Thrower · 10-26-2022, 09:48 AM

If the Browns publicize they will cough up Kareem for a 4th then you'd better be blowing up their phones.

**The Franchise** · 10-26-2022, 09:48 AM

Adding Cooks just gives this offense another capable weapon to win one on one matchups.

htismaqe · 10-26-2022, 09:48 AM

The one other thing - Cooks is under contract through next season. The WR room gets a lot less crowded next year with only MVS and Moore having contracts. The issue is that Cooks' contract is pretty massive.

**The Franchise** · 10-26-2022, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The one other thing - Cooks is under contract through next season. The WR room gets a lot less crowded next year with only MVS and Moore having contracts. The issue is that Cooks' contract is pretty massive.

They could also take the opportunity to convert some of his non-guaranteed salary into a signing bonus. His cap hits aren't horrible.

2023 - $18 million
2024 - $13 million

**notorious** · 10-26-2022, 09:51 AM

Cooks demands too much cap.

Unless we are trading a cap heavy guy for him it won't work.

Move on.

Marcellus · 10-26-2022, 09:51 AM

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Kareem Hunt will never play for teh Chiefs. We should all move on.

I'm somewhat shocked you aren't advocating trading our 1st rounder for him.

Who do you have us giving up that pick for?

kccrow · 10-26-2022, 09:52 AM

Most teams are not in an excellent cap position during the season to make blockbuster trades and absorb the hits. Sometimes you get the right contract and price together and a team takes it on. CMC had a relatively modest impact this year. DJ Moore does too. There are several more, but the guys that might yet hit a team for 15+ million aren't going anywhere and if they are then it's likely not to a contender. At that point, it's two teams shuffling the deck trying to align for next year.

htismaqe · 10-26-2022, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

They could also take the opportunity to convert some of his non-guaranteed salary into a signing bonus. His cap hits aren't horrible.

2023 - $18 million
2024 - $13 million

They aren't horrible but they're probably still too steep for the Chiefs.

**ptlyon** · 10-26-2022, 09:55 AM

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So, (I'm sure this will be taken well and discussed and I won't get yelled at) if they're calling on COoks, what's that say about Moore?

DJ's left nut · 10-26-2022, 10:05 AM

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So, (I'm sure this will be taken well and discussed and I won't get yelled at) if they're calling on COoks, what's that say about Moore?

The interesting thing about Cooks is that you really could be looking at a bit of a one-stop shop.

Cooks, Hughes and Green are all guys who could help quite a bit. And between the 3 of them I think you're looking at maybe $2.8 million in total cap obligations.

The Texans may be more inclined to part them individually and see if that gets them a better return, but as a group they could maybe get as much as a 2nd for them. I think I'd give up a 3 and another 3 the following year.

**The Franchise** · 10-26-2022, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The interesting thing about Cooks is that you really could be looking at a bit of a one-stop shop.

Cooks, Hughes and Green are all guys who could help quite a bit. And between the 3 of them I think you're looking at maybe $2.8 million in total cap obligations.

The Texans may be more inclined to part them individually and see if that gets them a better return, but as a group they could maybe get as much as a 2nd for them. I think I'd give up a 3 and another 3 the following year.

Damn straight. Hughes and Green would help this defensive end group a ton. Not sure you can take on both though.

RunKC · 10-26-2022, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The one other thing - Cooks is under contract through next season. The WR room gets a lot less crowded next year with only MVS and Moore having contracts. The issue is that Cooks' contract is pretty massive.

I cannot get behind this bc Juju is significantly more valuable than Cooks. This offense declined when they lost Sammy Watkins. The offense as a whole thrives on precision and YAC.

Not having a guy like Juju breaking tackles and having that speed to get open really hurt us.

Cooks is 29 and Juju is only 25. Give that money to Juju going forward

raybec 4 · 10-26-2022, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The interesting thing about Cooks is that you really could be looking at a bit of a one-stop shop.

Cooks, Hughes and Green are all guys who could help quite a bit. And between the 3 of them I think you're looking at maybe $2.8 million in total cap obligations.

The Texans may be more inclined to part them individually and see if that gets them a better return, but as a group they could maybe get as much as a 2nd for them. I think I'd give up a 3 and another 3 the following year.

In a heartbeat. That would address several weaknesses in one swoop.

And the ridiculous idea that we shouldn't improve in any area possible with the players available to us because we have greater need elsewhere is one of the dumbest, most short sighted, dim witted ideas I've seen on CP.

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