*****2023 Border War Hoops and HATE Thread*****

[Chiefspants]

The 2023 Border War installment of our 5 game not a rivalry anymore series swings back to Allen Fieldhouse where already students are camping at numbers that dwarfed our game against UCONN.

KU is still finding itself this year, as usual with early Bill Self teams. Hunter Dickinson fulfills every checkmark of a classically hated Jayhawk. Arrogant, a great flop, questionable athleticism yet can be counted on to pull a double double every night. We would have been runaway title favorites in 2007, but unfortunately, it’s 2023 and today’s game needs outside shooters to go all the way, and we’ve yet to have someone consistently step up to take on that role (this would be a great game for a Furphy coming out party).

Coming to Lawrence for their renewed John Brown invitational is the Mizzou Tigers. I actually don’t know a lot about the Tigers this year. Browsing ESPN it looks like y’all lost to Assberg State but had a helluva comeback agains Minnesota and a dub against Pitt? What’s up with your team this year, Tigers fans? A lot of turnover/young players? Fill us in if you have outside shooters and athletes to swarm Dickinson in the paint and threaten KU’s 3 game winning streak.

Come in, make yourselves at home, and shit talk like it’s 2012 again.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Trevo_410

ku just keeps trying to force this rivalry. Yall pussed out of 10 years not playing us because you were butthurt we left for greener pastures. This is not a rivalry. GL in the little12 losers.

That doesn't even make a little sense... go back to threads as long back as you want and KU fans are trolling ya'll telling you to be better before it's even considered a rivalry.

It was a JV rivalry except for a couple years in both sports.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

"Ducking" is an interesting term to use given the context and the stature of those two programs. I'd say "ignoring" would be more accurate.

You can call it whatever you want but they 'avoided' playing Mizzou because they were pouting and upset over them leaving.

That part really isn't even up for debate in lieu of some of Self's comments.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

You can call it whatever you want but they 'avoided' playing Mizzou because they were pouting and upset over them leaving.

That part really isn't even up for debate in lieu of some of Self's comments.

I'll call it ignoring an irrelevant program, yes.

[KC_Connection]

It’s been 9,084 days since the University of Missouri won a basketball game inside of Allen Fieldhouse.

Nic Timberlake is the only member of the roster born at that time- he was 5 months old.

Bill Self was in his second season at Tulsa. #kubball

— Adam Sullivan (@Sully_2029) December 8, 2023

You're right, this isn't like any rivalry I've ever seen.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

kU fans better enjoy this time while they still have a chance to win some of these games.

Drink has already pulled ahead and lapped Leipold in football.

Once Gates gets his recruits in, basketball will start rolling. Once Toupee Bill hangs it up, it’s going to get ugly in Hoops for kU in this series.

Not to mention the enormous resource advantage MU is going to enjoy going forward being in the SEC vs the misfit 12.

I’m afraid the gap between kU and their daddy is only going to continue to widen.

lol

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'll call it ignoring an irrelevant program, yes.

Bill Self sure had a lot to say about it from time to time when it was brought up over the years for supposedly 'ignoring' them.

He could have just said 'next question' and left it at that and moved on but he felt the need to justify his position.

Sounds like butthurt to me, but if you want to call it ignoring by all means . . . .

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'll call it ignoring an irrelevant program, yes.

It's funny you all say things like this and then the second tickets go on sale for this 'irrelevant' program, your KU fans by them up in what, under an hour? I think the first game it was 15 minutes.

Seems like a lot of your fans and boosters are still interested in this 'irrelevant' program, huh?

[Mosbonian]

Hard to feel a rivalry with a team that had to practice how to celebrate after winning a game.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Mosbonian

Hard to feel a rivalry with a team that had to practice how to celebrate after winning a game.

What does this mean?

This is probably some next level Muttgers smack I’m just not picking up on relating to our basketball program

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

It's funny you all say things like this and then the second tickets go on sale for this 'irrelevant' program, your KU fans by them up in what, under an hour? I think the first game it was 15 minutes.

Seems like a lot of your fans and boosters are still interested in this 'irrelevant' program, huh?

At least a few million people watch Thursday Night Football every week, too, but we can still call them awful games against awful irrelevant teams. I can even say the Chiefs/Broncos game in week 6 was pretty damn bad and it's an irrelevant rivalry against an irrelevant team, even if Arrowhead was filled to capacity.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

kU fans better enjoy this time while they still have a chance to win some of these games.

Drink has already pulled ahead and lapped Leipold in football.

Once Gates gets his recruits in, basketball will start rolling. Once Toupee Bill hangs it up, it’s going to get ugly in Hoops for kU in this series.

Not to mention the enormous resource advantage MU is going to enjoy going forward being in the SEC vs the misfit 12.

I’m afraid the gap between kU and their daddy is only going to continue to widen.

Oh sure, because KU hasn't been able to find good coaches to take over the program. Only 3 HOF coaches in the past 40 years or so.

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

kU fans better enjoy this time while they still have a chance to win some of these games.

Drink has already pulled ahead and lapped Leipold in football.

Once Gates gets his recruits in, basketball will start rolling. Once Toupee Bill hangs it up, it’s going to get ugly in Hoops for kU in this series.

Not to mention the enormous resource advantage MU is going to enjoy going forward being in the SEC vs the misfit 12.

I’m afraid the gap between kU and their daddy is only going to continue to widen.

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jUsT wAiT uNtIl ThEy GeT rId Of RoY wIlLiAmS, ThEy'Ll Go In ThE sHiTtEr!

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jUsT wA eR, nEvErMiNd!

Meanwhile, over 9,000 days (or almost 25 YEARS) since they won in Allen Fieldhouse.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

Bill Self sure had a lot to say about it from time to time when it was brought up over the years for supposedly 'ignoring' them.

He could have just said 'next question' and left it at that and moved on but he felt the need to justify his position.

Sounds like butthurt to me, but if you want to call it ignoring by all means . . . .

As I recall, Missouri leaving like they did caused a lot of disruption and uncertainty for the conference. And Self felt that we should not reward Missouri by playing them. Most KU fans were fine with and agreed with that stance. Most MU fans here were the ones trying to convince us that we should continue the rivalry. Frankly, I would have been fine with never playing MU ever again.

Of course, most of that turmoil was ultimately due to Texas and their controlling BS. Well, now they're your problem once again. Good luck with that.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

At least a few million people watch Thursday Night Football every week, too, but we can still call them awful games against awful irrelevant teams. I can even say the Chiefs/Broncos game in week 6 was pretty damn bad and it's an irrelevant rivalry against an irrelevant team, even if Arrowhead was filled to capacity.

Yes, I realize KU likely sells out all of their home games.

But how often do they sell them out in under an hour? Or 15 minutes in the case of the first game back at AFH between KU and Mizzou.

That was the point.

Apparently, some people (including many on your side) still REALLY care about the game.

I'm not one of them and it just feels like the real 'hate' between the schools has passed.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Originally Posted by Lzen

As I recall, Missouri leaving like they did caused a lot of disruption and uncertainty for the conference. Of course, most of that was ultimately due to Texas and their controlling BS. Well, now they're your problem once again. Good luck with that.

YES! And THAT pisses me off!

I welcome Oklahoma with open arms to the SEC. Fun old Big 8 rivalry. Want nothing to do with Texas and their bullshit!

The silver lining here is that Texas won't be able to pull the same shit in the SEC that they did in the Big 12. The 'old guard' will make sure of that.