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Old 05-09-2025, 03:06 PM  
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Not a good look at all for a guy that didn't produce anywhere near the level you'd expect for a top 25 pick.
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Old 05-12-2025, 10:51 PM   #31
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Old 05-12-2025, 11:31 PM   #32
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Seems like vast majority of teams and players have no problem coming to an agreement pretty quickly on this stuff. Would be very on-brand for the Bengals to be pricks about it.
This is true, primarily.

There is a minimum active/inactive salary for players with zero credited seasons, then there is a maximum allocation based on draft-slot determined percentage of the league-wide rookie compensation pool.

There are some small exclusions, like minimum offseason workout incentives and community relations.

They have a little leeway to move some money up/down on player contracts, but they can't exceed the rookie pool allocation in the aggregate or at the individual level, and they can't go under the minimum in any year of the contract. Base salaries cannot increase by more than 25% from one year to the next.

Then there is the matter of guarantees. A rookie contract cannot be guaranteed for skill or injury or both in years 3 and 4 unless the entire contract is guaranteed for the same. Performance incentives can't be guaranteed at all. If the 5th year option is exercised for a 1st rounder, then his 4th year becomes guaranteed by default as does the 5th year.

On the guarantees, it circles back to what you have here...

Signing bonus payout schedules are a big hangup. Despite people thinking a player gets a "bag" up front, that's really not entirely the case. Sure, it's all guaranteed at signing, but they usually disperse it over a period of time because businesses do have to worry about, you know, cash flows and investment income.

Guarantee voids also factor in... They can absolutely write in voids of guarantees if a player does stupid shit. Let's say Rice had his contract guaranteed for years one and two, and he had a void clause, his 2nd year could have very well had the guarantees voided.

With offsets, any guaranteed money left to be paid on a deal if the rookie gets released at some point can be offset by the new deal he gets from another team, given that clause exists.
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Old 05-13-2025, 02:18 AM   #33
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Two things can be true, the Bengals can be an organization that doesn't pay players shit and can't be trusted for shit and Shemar Stewart can be a bust waiting to happen without having his priorities straight
Stewart will probably bust but the Bengals absolutely deserve this for doing language ****ery with these injury waivers that 31 other teams aren't doing.

He's not the only draft pick holding out.
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Old 05-13-2025, 05:26 AM   #34
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Old 05-13-2025, 05:59 AM   #35
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Old 05-13-2025, 06:03 AM   #36
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I'm with this.

Would you start work on a job without a contract?
Millions of people in this country are employed "at will". No contract. So yeah, millions of people go to work every day without being protected by a contract.

As we've discussed before, comparisons of NFL players to regular Joe's doesn't really work.
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Old 05-13-2025, 06:45 AM   #37
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Millions of people in this country are employed "at will". No contract. So yeah, millions of people go to work every day without being protected by a contract.

As we've discussed before, comparisons of NFL players to regular Joe's doesn't really work.
I wouldn't. The Bengals can eat a dick
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Old 05-13-2025, 08:00 AM   #38
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Compared to other top EDs. The Bengals not only got Trey on a bargain basement FA contract, after he produced for them, they're now not willing to show him any love for their ROI. Even their extension last year was for less APY than any of the others, despite what he's done the last 2 years.

2nd contracts, APY, age when contract was signed, notes.
TJ Watt - $28MM (27 yrs old) extension coming
M Garrett - $25MM (25 yrs old) just extended/back loaded/3 void years/$40MM APY
D Hunter - $24.5MM (30 yrs old) 3rd contract (FA)
M Crosby - $23.5MM (25 yrs old) just extended/ 3yrs $35.5MM
T Hendrickson - $15MM (27 yrs old) (FA) / extended 1yr $21MM


Sacks since 2020 (and last 2 years)
TJ Watt - 54.5 (30.5 last 2 years)
M Garrett - 72.0 (28.0 last 2 years)
D Hunter - 45.0 (28.5 last 2 years)
M Crosby - 49.5 (22.0 last 2 years)
T Hendrickson - 70.5 (35.0 last 2 years)

They're simply tight-fisted penny-pinching skinflints who aren't willing to pay an older player, to show any kind of love or to say thanks for over producing because they don't want to take a chance on their ROI going in the tank. See; A Whitworth.

Add in the hypocrisy of asking for top return (because they feel that's what his worth is on the open market), while not being willing to pay top (not even near the top) money for the next couple years...because apparently he's not worth that, so what you have is a bunch of dim-witted jagoffs who don't know how to run an NFL franchise with the intent on winning a championship.
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The only outcome I truly envision is the Lions or Bucs putting together a day 2 package of a 2nd in 2026 and a 2027 conditional 3rd or something along those lines. I find it doubtful anyone is giving up a 1st for a 30-year-old player that they have to extend for 3-4 years and give a 36m AAV deal to
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