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Old 09-22-2004, 11:17 AM  
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Heresy I know...
But I think Greg Robinson was doing better last year against the weaker offenses than Gun is with our pathetic talent on D. He is also fielding a pretty top defense with Tejas.
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:08 PM   #31
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What KC Jones said.

Come on Jim.
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:09 PM   #32
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Heresy?

No, just complete unbounded and sheer stupidity. You can't even begin the comparison of 3 years of Grob after two games of Gunther.

If you wanted for some bizare reason you'd probably want to compare the games at Denver this year to last - apparently our defense is 11 points better this year.

As for the Carolina game, there were a number of great 3rd down conversion passes Delhomme got off just before getting knocked on his ass. We've had a lot more pressure on the QB and a lot more tackles for losses so far this year than in previous.

Playing at Denver and hosting the reigning NFC champion don't even come close to hosting the absolute bottom of the league Chargers and Steelers that we started out against last year. You just can't straight up compare the results.
If we were comparing offensive results for the Chiefs you would be correct.

If were were talking Denver with Portis, and Sharpe you would be correct.

As it is we are talking two talent poor offensive teams dominating our defense.

A comparison to Buffalo, Cleveland and Baltimore's ability to move on our defense is indeed appropriate. Grob's defense was doing better.
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:14 PM   #33
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If we were comparing offensive results for the Chiefs you would be correct.

If were were talking Denver with Portis, and Sharpe you would be correct.

As it is we are talking two talent poor offensive teams dominating our defense.

A comparison to Buffalo, Cleveland and Baltimore's ability to move on our defense is indeed appropriate. Grob's defense was doing better.
Let's just see where the defense ranks at the end of the year. Frankly, I think you're an idiot for even trying to make the comparison after only two games.
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:14 PM   #34
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I was wondering when someone would finally start realizing Robinson was a scapegoat...
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:35 PM   #35
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Let's just see where the defense ranks at the end of the year. Frankly, I think you're an idiot for even trying to make the comparison after only two games.
Versus just being an idiot. I have measured the source and found it supercillious.
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:00 PM   #36
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no but the point is that Gunther has not improved anything either.
Well, last year the D started strong but finished poorly. Maybe this year we will finish strong instead.
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Old 09-22-2004, 08:17 PM   #37
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You have to look at the teams we are playing, Vlad.

The Broncos are a very good offensive team, and we actually did hold them to fewer points allowed than Robinson did at Mile High.

Carolina was missing two of their top threats but still had plenty of talent on O. And the D held them to 14 points through the first three quarters or so. If the O had been anywhere near its top form against the Panthers we probably win 35-17.

Gunther showed me his defense was better than Robinson's in the first half of the Carolina game, when we allowed only 2.7 yards per rush. We're also getting more pressure on the QB.
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:07 PM   #38
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I think the defense is so screwed up now, it will take wholesale changes and several years to straighten it out. Anything less than a great performance by the offense will result in a loss.
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:20 PM   #39
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I was wondering when someone would finally start realizing Robinson was a scapegoat...
Just because he's gone and we're still struggling, does not mean that he didn't/doesn't suck.
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