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Old 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM  
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Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell
Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

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Old 09-14-2016, 04:07 PM   #436
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:08 PM   #437
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There has to be more to the story, otherwise it's a bad look for Dorsey.
As I mentioned earlier, I outlined what was likely keeping Russell from performing well in preseason, which included his oversized ego.

Some guys just aren't coachable.

Should Dorsey have known that beforehand? Probably, but a coach like Notre Dame's Brian Kelly isn't going to shit on his players.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:10 PM   #438
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Of course there's more to the story. We've already heard some of it from Matt Miller. Like I said, you just have to give Dorsey the benefit of the doubt in this situation and move on.
One, Matt Miller is a ****ing moron.

But lets take his story as gospel.

Look at the "problem children" this organization has drafted in the last three years and tell me why they get a chance to change and Russell doesn't? I don't believe for a second they cut a kid for running his mouth considering some of the other issues they've ignored regarding kids they've drafted.

Something doesn't add up.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:14 PM   #439
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There's a ton of talent on that list that didn't show shit early, yet we'd never DREAM of them being cut.

This front office went from falling all over themselves to draft this kid, to determining he was a bust in 3 months.

Jesus, Jamaal was a 3rd round pick that was INACTIVE for games.

Everyone's glad we didn't jump the gun early on him, eh?

Listen, I'm not claiming Russell is Cornerback Jesus - but to imply he went from the uber-talented kid they drafted in the Top 75 in May to an unrosterable POS in 3 months is ridiculous. There has to be more to the story, otherwise it's a bad look for Dorsey.
I think Matt Miller was right about this kid being a knucklehead who wouldn't shut up and pissed off the leaders of the team.

I wonder if we purposefully put him with the 4th stringers in the preseason to send him a message that he wasn't the badass he was constantly telling everyone he was? Maybe after all that he didn't stop and it got to a point where guys like Peters went to Andy and said "**** this guy".

You're right though. I think there is something more. Maybe he kept going and a serious altercation happened behind closed doors? Who knows.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:14 PM   #440
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One, Matt Miller is a ****ing moron.

But lets take his story as gospel.

Look at the "problem children" this organization has drafted in the last three years and tell me why they get a chance to change and Russell doesn't? I don't believe for a second they cut a kid for running his mouth considering some of the other issues they've ignored regarding kids they've drafted.

Something doesn't add up.
Think what you want of Matt Miller, but he has friends in our scouting team. This isn't a matter of opinion. This is what he's hearing.
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Getlin breaks the Russell (and Houston?) news this morning, no longer employed this afternoon.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:17 PM   #442
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One, Matt Miller is a ****ing moron.

But lets take his story as gospel.

Look at the "problem children" this organization has drafted in the last three years and tell me why they get a chance to change and Russell doesn't? I don't believe for a second they cut a kid for running his mouth considering some of the other issues they've ignored regarding kids they've drafted.

Something doesn't add up.
I can't think of any issues the Chiefs players have had Re ecently?
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:19 PM   #443
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Related, yet unrelated...






Getlin breaks the Russell (and Houston?) news this morning, no longer employed this afternoon.
What the ...?
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:20 PM   #444
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Think what you want of Matt Miller, but he has friends in our scouting team. This isn't a matter of opinion. This is what he's hearing.
He can send them all Christmas cards for all I care, but it doesn't change my point.

They've drafted a ton of character guys in the last three years, and they decide to finally cut one because he's cocky?

Show me a young professional skill player that isn't.

If we legit cut a kid because he was mouthy, that's even more reeruned. It's a teachable moment for someone with talent - if NFL team cut every young draft choice who was mouthy/cocky/arrogant there wouldn't be enough players to stock the league.
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I can't think of any issues the Chiefs players have had Re ecently?
He's taking about character concerns like Peters and Hill in the draft.

What he doesn't realize is that Peters and Hill have been great teammates from everything we know, while Russell reportedly hasn't.

He's just butthurt.
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:20 PM   #446
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I'm still trying to find a Top 75 pick that was cut a week into his rookie year.

It's not just weird, it flat out doesn't happen unless there are non-football related issues/incidents.
Didn't the Raiders do it with a safety a few years ago?
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Didn't the Raiders do it with a safety a few years ago?
Mike Mitchell?

Not sure it was this quick, but it's possible.

And he's gone on to an average career elsewhere, IIRC.
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He can send them all Christmas cards for all I care, but it doesn't change my point.

They've drafted a ton of character guys in the last three years, and they decide to finally cut one because he's cocky?

Show me a young professional skill player that isn't.

If we legit cut a kid because he was mouthy, that's even more reeruned. It's a teachable moment for someone with talent - if NFL team cut every young draft choice who was mouthy/cocky/arrogant there wouldn't be enough players to stock the league.
Why are you seeing it so black and white.

Maybe he was just TOO cocky and TOO arrogant. Is it really that hard to believe?
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He's taking about character concerns like Peters and Hill in the draft.

What he doesn't realize is that Peters and Hill have been great teammates from everything we know, while Russell reportedly hasn't.

He's just butthurt.
You keep throwing that word around like you know me, or know anything for that matter.

I have no skin in this game. I don't know the kid, I'm not a ND fan.

And if you had two brain cells to rub together, you'd know I could really give two ****s about this team - but this is a damn interesting topic to discuss, so I'm discussing it.
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You keep throwing that word around like you know me, or know anything for that matter.

I have no skin in this game. I don't know the kid, I'm not a ND fan.

And if you had two brain cells to rub together, you'd know I could really give two ****s about this team - but this is a damn interesting topic to discuss, so I'm discussing it.
Ohh I'm sorry are you butthurt that I'm using the word butthurt now?

What a bitch.
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