Football Free Agency begins today, sort of. - Page 30

RunKC · 03-10-2017, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

what is going to happen next then?

Everyone knows

Enlighten us all

John Dorsey will make a move, you'll bitch about it non stop and then 90% of the moves you're bitching about will come back to make you look foolish.

Rinse, repeat.

**TimBone** · 03-09-2017, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

While our guys might not be great, we locked them up before Oline contract armageddon. WTF is going on with these Oline contracts? It's like every team agree to increase their pay this offseason.

How could Dorsey know that the salaries for Oline were going to go nuclear?

People want to talk about the league being rigged, how about all these prices going up in such an organized fashion?

A few people here on the board knew it. I don't remember who they were, but when LDT signed, a few posters here mentioned that the Guards were going to get paid big money during free agency.

**BossChief** · 03-10-2017, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

While our guys might not be great, we locked them up before Oline contract armageddon. WTF is going on with these Oline contracts? It's like every team agree to increase their pay this offseason.

How could Dorsey know that the salaries for Oline were going to go nuclear?

People want to talk about the league being rigged, how about all these prices going up in such an organized fashion?

Jesus, Laz.

This draft is the worst OL draft in a long time and FA isn't exactly stacked with lots and lots of options for quality starting OL.

Supply and demand dictates costs.

Draft yodas like John Dorsey knew it long ago and wanted to make sure he got LDTs deal done before the storm.

The timing of the deals for Fisher, LDT and Schwartz helped Dorsey get good value.

Mr. Laz · 03-10-2017, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Jesus, Laz.

This draft is the worst OL draft in a long time and FA isn't exactly stacked with lots and lots of options for quality starting OL.

Supply and demand dictates costs.

Draft yodas like John Dorsey knew it long ago and wanted to make sure he got LDTs deal done before the storm.

The timing of the deals for Fisher, LDT and Schwartz helped Dorsey get good value.

Jesus, boss.

thabear04 · 03-09-2017, 04:58 PM

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports the Browns will continue to try to trade for Jimmy Garoppolo.
After the Brock Osweiler trade, Cleveland is armed with two 2017 first-round picks and two 2017 second-round picks, and a whopping three second-round picks in 2018. The Plain Dealer believes New England is asking for the No. 1 pick in this year's draft, while Cleveland is willing to offer the No. 12 pick, but perhaps not No. 1 overall. Either way, the Browns are armed to "blow the Patriots' socks off," and have not giving up on trying to acquire Jimmy G.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-09-2017, 05:12 PM

Industry sources believe Chargers may have tampered with Russel Okung who was not supposed to negotiate till 2pm Thursday. #9sports
— Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) March 9, 2017

Quesadilla Joe · 03-09-2017, 05:16 PM

Perhaps the Broncos could get more draft compensation than just a 3rd round comp pick for Russell Okung... https://t.co/QjkjPVI4Pe
— Nick Korte (@nickkorte) March 9, 2017

**BossChief** · 03-10-2017, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Perhaps the Broncos could get more draft compensation than just a 3rd round comp pick for Russell Okung... https://t.co/QjkjPVI4Pe
— Nick Korte (@nickkorte) March 9, 2017

They arent going to get any good comp picks next year. They have tons of $ they need to spend and will sign a handful of FAs that will cancel out any quality comp picks they would have gotten.

Leary and Okung cancel each other out already and Denver signing Okung last offseason cost them a third round comp pick in this draft.

Oops

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-09-2017, 05:21 PM

If Cleveland acquires Jimmy G.... there is a very real shot that KC can get one of the big QBs in this draft without trading a huge load of picks to move up. Probably a good shot either way now that Houston traded their 2nd rounder. They need to upgrade their OL in the 1st for Romo if/when that happens.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 03-09-2017, 05:26 PM

Teams that could go 1st round QB before KC, realistically:
CLE
SF
NYJ
ARZ
HOU

Cleveland is going for Jimmy, SF likely wouldn't use pick 2 on one, Houston doesn't look promising as if they sign Romo, their OL will need upgraded.

Sandy Vagina · 03-09-2017, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Teams that could go 1st round QB before KC, realistically:
CLE
SF
NYJ
ARZ
HOU

Cleveland is going for Jimmy, SF likely wouldn't use pick 2 on one, Houston doesn't look promising as if they sign Romo, their OL will need upgraded.

Well, where they pick, and signing an old guy like Romo doesn't really mean much. You have to expect that other teams can and do trade up or down throughout.

KC_Lee · 03-10-2017, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Teams that could go 1st round QB before KC, realistically:
CLE
SF
NYJ
ARZ
HOU

Cleveland is going for Jimmy, SF likely wouldn't use pick 2 on one, Houston doesn't look promising as if they sign Romo, their OL will need upgraded.

The perfect storm for KC -

CLE; trades for Garappalo
SF; trades for Cousins
NYJ; signs Cutler
ARZ; drafts a QB
HOU; signs / trades for Romo

KC is now in perfect position to have more than one choice to draft a QB in the first.

raybec 4 · 03-10-2017, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

The perfect storm for KC -

CLE; trades for Garappalo
SF; trades for Cousins
NYJ; signs Cutler
ARZ; drafts a QB
HOU; signs / trades for Romo

KC is now in perfect position to have more than one choice to draft a QB in the first.

If the Jets sign Cutler and Houston signs Romo you'd have to think both of those teams are still looking for a youngster. John Lynch was sucking Hoyer's cock but they don't have another QB on the roster. They're still looking too.

hitchief · 03-10-2017, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

The perfect storm for KC -

CLE; trades for Garappalo
SF; trades for Cousins
NYJ; signs Cutler
ARZ; drafts a QB
HOU; signs / trades for Romo

KC is now in perfect position to have more than one choice to draft a QB in the first.

you just made the point that most GM's don't think much of this years QB class. But lets take one anyway (like you all wanted Geno, Manzel, RGiii, etc.)

I'd be happy to shore up the D and get a stud rb in this years class and then go after a quality qb in next years draft. Puts that qb in a much better position to succeed kinda like Dak.

KC_Lee · 03-10-2017, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hitchief

you just made the point that most GM's don't think much of this years QB class. But lets take one anyway (like you all wanted Geno, Manzel, RGiii, etc.)

I'd be happy to shore up the D and get a stud rb in this years class and then go after a quality qb in next years draft. Puts that qb in a much better position to succeed kinda like Dak.

I also made a point that there are a lot of dumbasses running NFL teams that fall in love of back up and has been QBs that are a band aid at best and a total dumpster fire at worse. This is also known as "How the KC Chiefs Have Handled the QB Position Since Lenny Dawson Retired".

And "shore up the D and get a RB" then wait for another year? Why? SO KC can be good enough for a wild card and drafting in the 20s again where all the good prospects will never fall?

03-09-2017, 04:58 PM	#5
thabear04 MTFU Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Valley Heat Casino cash: $5310450	The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports the Browns will continue to try to trade for Jimmy Garoppolo. After the Brock Osweiler trade, Cleveland is armed with two 2017 first-round picks and two 2017 second-round picks, and a whopping three second-round picks in 2018. The Plain Dealer believes New England is asking for the No. 1 pick in this year's draft, while Cleveland is willing to offer the No. 12 pick, but perhaps not No. 1 overall. Either way, the Browns are armed to "blow the Patriots' socks off," and have not giving up on trying to acquire Jimmy G.
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03-09-2017, 05:12 PM	#6
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3408675	Industry sources believe Chargers may have tampered with Russel Okung who was not supposed to negotiate till 2pm Thursday. #9sports — Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) March 9, 2017
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03-09-2017, 05:16 PM	#7
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $3408675	Perhaps the Broncos could get more draft compensation than just a 3rd round comp pick for Russell Okung... https://t.co/QjkjPVI4Pe — Nick Korte (@nickkorte) March 9, 2017
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03-09-2017, 05:26 PM	#10
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6569447	Teams that could go 1st round QB before KC, realistically: CLE SF NYJ ARZ HOU Cleveland is going for Jimmy, SF likely wouldn't use pick 2 on one, Houston doesn't look promising as if they sign Romo, their OL will need upgraded.
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03-09-2017, 05:21 PM	#9
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6569447	If Cleveland acquires Jimmy G.... there is a very real shot that KC can get one of the big QBs in this draft without trading a huge load of picks to move up. Probably a good shot either way now that Houston traded their 2nd rounder. They need to upgrade their OL in the 1st for Romo if/when that happens.
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