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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 08-05-2022, 12:34 PM   #45331
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The default SOP post when you can't come up with a good take. You do realize even with that success vs Denver the teams have same SB wins and appearances in last 10 years.
I mean, I would think most if not all think KC is a better team than Denver.

I'm not sure why you think the burden of proof falls on KC here.
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Old 08-05-2022, 12:36 PM   #45332
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I mean, I would think most if not all think KC is a better team than Denver.

I'm not sure why you think the burden of proof falls on KC here.
Donk-tard logic is a thing...it's how they've convinced themselves that every year, they are a SB team just missing another Manning.
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Old 08-05-2022, 12:44 PM   #45333
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Had we swapped QB's the winning streak would've been swapped too.
Care to revisit any of your initial takes back around 2017 and 2018?

Like how Horseface found two suitable QBOTFs at only the cost of a 7th round (Swag Kelly) and an undrafted contract (Kyle Sloter) compared to the Chiefs who were stuck with pick machine Mahomes and had to pay an extra 1st and 3rd rounder to trade up and take him?
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Old 08-05-2022, 12:50 PM   #45334
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Had we swapped QB's the winning streak would've been swapped too.
Lmao the Chiefs had the 3rd most wins in the 90’s behind only SF and Buffalo. And that was with trash QB’s aside from 2 years of Joe Montana.

The Chiefs probably win multiple SB’s and go to at least 3 with a real QB on those teams
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Care to revisit any of your initial takes back around 2017 and 2018?

Like how Horseface found two suitable QBOTFs at only the cost of a 7th round (Swag Kelly) and an undrafted contract (Kyle Sloter) compared to the Chiefs who were stuck with pick machine Mahomes and had to pay an extra 1st and 3rd rounder to trade up and take him?

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Old 08-05-2022, 12:58 PM   #45336
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Care to revisit any of your initial takes back around 2017 and 2018?

Like how Horseface found his QBOTF at only the cost of a 7th round (Swag Kelly) and an undrafted contract (Kyle Sloter) compared to the Chiefs who were stuck with a pick machine and had to pay an extra 1st and 3rd rounder to trade up and take him?
If your GM built the highest scoring offense in NFL history, and then turned around and built a top 5 defense in NFL history two years later, you'd probably have faith in that GM too.
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Lmao the Chiefs had the 3rd most wins in the 90’s behind only SF and Buffalo. And that was with trash QB’s aside from 2 years of Joe Montana.

The Chiefs probably win multiple SB’s and go to at least 3 with a real QB on those teams
Different era. Those 90's Chiefs teams would be bottom feeders now.
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If your GM built the highest scoring offense in NFL history, and then turned around and built a top 5 defense in NFL history two years later, you'd probably have faith in that GM too.
No. Your history suggests every transaction ever made by any Broncos GM is gold.

You've got a young unproven GM at the helm now and you're claiming all of his late round draft picks are already hits based on ****ing training camp.

It wouldn't matter what Elway's history was. If you had Matt Millen as the Donks GM in 2017, you'd be suggesting the exact same shit about Kelly and Sloter compared to Mahomes.
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Old 08-05-2022, 01:06 PM   #45339
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Different era. Those 90's Chiefs teams would be bottom feeders now.
And the 2015 Broncos defense would have been shredded by the Chiefs 2018 offense due to era and offensive rules
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Old 08-05-2022, 01:12 PM   #45340
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Many of you guys put an unreasonable amount of faith in Let's Reach, even though he didn't hire Reid, sign Mitchell Schwartz, or draft guys like Mahomes, Kelce, Hill, Chris Jones, or Eric Fisher who helped you get to the Super Bowl.

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Sammy Watkins, Mecole Hardman, Damien Williams, 2 starting OL. Funny you leave out Veach gutting Dorsey’s horrendous defense and replacing it with 9 new starters including Matheiu, Fuller and Clark. Only Chris Jones and Daniel Sorenson were left from the Dorsey era.

So yeah Veach did build over half of that starting unit. And he found Patrick Mahomes and pushed Andy into buying in.
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Old 08-05-2022, 01:24 PM   #45342
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Carlos Dunlap had more sacks than Gregory and Chubb combined last year and his base cap hit is only like 3 million
That does suck... Chubb only played 7 games unfortunately. The Broncos definitely should have drafted Allen.
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If your GM built the highest scoring offense in NFL history, and then turned around and built a top 5 defense in NFL history two years later, you'd probably have faith in that GM too.
You're actually defending that take? That might've been the worst take in the history of sports.

You're also one of about 10% of Broncos fans that would defend (former) GM Elway.

Have you ever been right about anything?
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And the 2015 Broncos defense would have been shredded by the Chiefs 2018 offense due to era and offensive rules
The 2015 Broncos wouldn't sniff the playoffs this year.
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That does suck... Chubb only played 7 games unfortunately. The Broncos definitely should have drafted Allen.
Lynch being a compete need gamer flop cost them Allen too. They were afraid of another potential project. Mistake for sure.

That being said using Sacks as a measuring tool like they do here is only a small part of the story. Dunlap played a whole season and Gregory played in 12 games or so. I wonder what QB pressures and FF looked like when comparing the players?
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