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The dive was a liquidity shortage. The recession wasn't because of the oil price.
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: OC
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"Think BOOM!"
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Wow. Of course, it's a government prediction, but...
The Energy Department again slashed its prediction for next year's average price of gasoline across the U.S., this time to $2.60 a gallon. That would be 23 percent below this year's projected average and the lowest full-year average since 2009. If that comes to pass, the price drop will save U.S. drivers $100 billion over the course of the year based on current consumption levels. That will boost the overall economy by reducing shipping and transportation costs, and leaving consumers more money to spend on other things. In its most recent short-term energy outlook, released Tuesday, the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration cut its gasoline price forecast for 2015 by 35 cents a gallon. It was the second time in two months that the EIA cut the forecast by more than 30 cents a gallon. The average national price of gasoline to $2.66 a gallon on Tuesday according to AAA, 61 cents less than last year at this time. The national average has fallen every day since September 26. The steep drop in gasoline prices is a result of a drop in crude oil supplies. Global crude prices have fallen to around $66 per barrel from a June high of $115 per barrel. Global supplies are high thanks in part to rising production in the U.S., while global demand is relatively weak because of slowing economic growth in Europe and Asia. The lower crude prices are forcing oil companies to scale back drilling plans for next year. As a result, the EIA trimmed its forecast for U.S. production growth. U.S. crude oil output is expected to rise by 300,000 barrels per day to 9.3 million barrels a day. The EIA had previously expected production to rise by 400,000 barrels per day. Despite a colder than normal November, the EIA expects home heating costs to fall this winter compared to last year. Weather forecasters do not expect a repeat of last year's consistently low temperatures, and prices for propane and heating oil are much lower than last year.
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Shaken. Not stirred.
Join Date: Sep 2002
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Thanks to a buck off with Kroger fuel points, I filled up for 1.33 per gallon today. My son was in shock when he saw the per gallon price.
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Shaken. Not stirred.
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When we got to 10 gallons and hadn't hit 20 bucks yet I had to do a doubletake.
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2008 was a liquidity crisis/financial deleveraging.
The only time in my lifetime that oil really devalued was in 1986 under Reagan. I forget how Reagan broke OPEC, but in 1986, we actually experienced DEFLATION because of the plunge in oil prices. The net result was massive growth in the US economy in 1987 and 1988. Cheap energy led to a huge US economic expansion. It was a WONDERFUL thing for our economy. Unless you lived in Texas. Texas went into a strong economic depression due to the oil price collapse. For the rest of America, it was a huge economic boon to have cheap energy and reduced costs. I also think it is no coincidence that the collapse of oil prices assisted the rise of the family SUV as a staple. Before that, it was too expensive to fill the tank. Now people are hooked on their SUVs and willing to spend $120 a tank at $4.00/gallon, but they would never have stood for that in 1982. Quote:
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Thank you, everyone for piling on my ignorance.
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Love driving the SUV's.
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Oil on it's way into the $50's.
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I'm starting to think that we could be on the way to $50.00 crude. Now at $62.12.
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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OIL READY TO CRASH THROUGH $61 A BARREL!!!! WAS DOWN NEARLY $3 A BARREL
IT'S A BLOODBATH AT THE ENERGY PITS FOR OIL TRADERS
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"You like to drink?"
Join Date: Jun 2006
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So how do I make money on knowing oil is going to spike back up to $90+/barrel in the next year or so?
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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