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Old 07-21-2006, 08:32 PM  
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Dakota Fanning to be raped onscreen
This is disturbing. I hope people boycott this movie because there's no need for crap like this.


Dakota, 12, to star in 'disturbing paedophile film'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773

Child actress Dakota Fanning will appear in a controversial new movie featuring paedophile scenes.

War of the Worlds star Dakota, 12, has signed up to appear in Hounddog.

The screenplay calls for Fanning's character to be raped in one explicit scene and to appear naked or clad only in "underpants" in several other horrifying moments.

A source close to the film said: "The two taboos in Hollywood are child abuse and the killing of animals.

"In this movie, both things happen." Fanning's mother, Joy, and her Hollywood agent, Cindy Osbrink, see the movie, written and directed by Deborah Kampmeier, as a possible Oscar vehicle for the pint-size star.

But despite Fanning's status as a bankable actress - whose movies, including last year's War of the Worlds have earned more than half a billion dollars since 2001 - the alarming material seems to have scared off potential investors, according to the New York Daily News.

The film charts the life of a girl who is abused and finds solace in the music of Elvis Presley.

Fanning's carefully choreographed rape scene has already been filmed. But then the production - which also stars Robin Wright Penn, David Morse and Piper Laurie - was stopped because of a lack of money.

But emergency investors were found and the movie is set to be finished by the end of the week.

"It's not just the rape scene - the whole story is challenging Dakota as an actress," Fanning's agent, Osbrink, said.

"And I've never been so proud of her in my life. In every scene she gets better and better."
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:43 PM   #451
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OK, that's your opinion and it's a totally valid one. But there are a lot of people that don't think movies like this should be made -- or that they're bad if they are made -- simply because it's not "your" type of movie.

I will more than likely see this. Not because I'm a pedophile and I want to see a 12-year-old being raped, but rather because I like seeing movies that make me feel something other than happy. I like to use my brain in a movie... no, I love it.

I love being drawn into a film and made to feel what the characters are feeling. That's part of what made me want to make movies. I want to do that for people. I want to entertain them. I want to make people laugh and cry and make people mad. But most of all, I want to make people think.

I understand your point. I like movies like Serenity and Donnie Darko because they break from the norm. Both of those movies had feature characters die in the end. I don't have a problem with that. It keeps things interesting. Most Hollywood flicks have the star coming out unscathed at the end. And that's okay if you know what you're getting into. But I like the occasional break from the norm.

As far as making you think, that's okay, too. But I don't really want to think about a little girl getting raped. I know that is a problem in real life. Still, I don't want that kind of image in my head. For that reason, I won't be seeing this movie.
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:47 PM   #452
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I understand your point. I like movies like Serenity and Donnie Darko because they break from the norm. Both of those movies had feature characters die in the end. I don't have a problem with that. It keeps things interesting. Most Hollywood flicks have the star coming out unscathed at the end. And that's okay if you know what you're getting into. But I like the occasional break from the norm.

As far as making you think, that's okay, too. But I don't really want to think about a little girl getting raped. I know that is a problem in real life. Still, I don't want that kind of image in my head. For that reason, I won't be seeing this movie.
That's it. You sit in a theatre where you know there are Peds watching and getting off on it. You leave angry and disgusted and payed to feel that way. NO thanks.
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:55 PM   #453
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Yeah, because I'm like a terrorist.

What about Sleepers, Mystic River, and Primal Fear, out of curiosity? All dealt with violence and deviant behavior toward a child.

This thread is like a ****in' train wreck... hard to not stare.
In your extremism, you are like a terrorist. You obviously take any criticizm of the independent film industry (regardless of such criticizm's sanity and validity) as a personal affront. This sort of makes reasonable debate with you on this subject impossible.
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Old 01-24-2007, 12:59 PM   #454
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I think this movie would probably be more entertaining than "Talledaga Nights". That's just me, though.
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In your extremism, you are like a terrorist. You obviously take any criticizm of the independent film industry (regardless of such criticizm's sanity and validity) as a personal affront. This sort of makes reasonable debate with you on this subject impossible.
Obviously, I'd disagree. I will be the first to admit there is a TON of garbage that comes from the independent, as well as mainstream, film industry. I don't take it personally, though. I don't think any less of any of you because you disagree with me.

I do get worked up about it, admittedly. Mainly when people say that films shouldn't be made or that something is "wrong" simply because it isn't for them. If it's not for you, then don't see it. No one is asking you to.

Some people like stuff like this. I love Brubaker and Murder in the First because it simultaneously disgusts me and pisses me off how people can be so cruel.

I was being an extremist in my previous post to prove a point. You said something about violence and deviant behavior toward children... the same issues were discussed in Sleepers and Primal Fear.
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Old 01-24-2007, 01:03 PM   #456
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I think this movie would probably be more entertaining than "Talledaga Nights". That's just me, though.


I would agree. That might be enough to get you lynched around here, so be warned.
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Honestly, if it's made in the spirit of art, there probably is little I would not defend.

I would not defend an ACTUAL rape or murder. There's nothing illegal about this film.

How is this different than characters GRAPHICALLY murdered in Pulp Fiction, or better yet, Hostel and Saw, Saw II, and Saw III? The actors are playing a role. It's not real.
That's interesting. I enjoyed Pulp Fiction, it made me laugh.

I have no interest in seeing any of the other 3 movies you mentioned, for the same reason I have no interest in seeing the Fanning movie.
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Perhaps to help someone who is affected by such a thing.
I'm sorry, but that's weaksauce.

Structured counseling and therapy helps someone affected by such a thing.

All a movie like this does is dredge up old feelings. It's self-medication in every way, shape, and form - no different than drinking alcohol to "help" deal with such a thing.
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That's interesting. I enjoyed Pulp Fiction, it made me laugh.

I have no interest in seeing any of the other 3 movies you mentioned, for the same reason I have no interest in seeing the Fanning movie.
I'm not sure I understand what you thought was interesting...
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I'm not sure I understand what you thought was interesting...
The list of films you compiled...
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I was being an extremist in my previous post to prove a point. You said something about violence and deviant behavior toward children... the same issues were discussed in Sleepers and Primal Fear.
I never watched Sleepers for the same reason I won't watch this. Kevin Bacon was in another movie called The Woodsman, about a child molester reentering society after prison. I skipped that one, too.

Primal Fear I enjoyed very much, and I own it. Yes, technically the performers in the tape were "children." But there is a huge difference between 16-17 year olds who are already sexually active and a virginal pre-pubescent girl. Also, the actors in Primal Fear were obviously adults at the time of the shooting. Fanning isn't.
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Obviously, I'd disagree. I will be the first to admit there is a TON of garbage that comes from the independent, as well as mainstream, film industry. I don't take it personally, though. I don't think any less of any of you because you disagree with me.

I do get worked up about it, admittedly. Mainly when people say that films shouldn't be made or that something is "wrong" simply because it isn't for them. If it's not for you, then don't see it. No one is asking you to.

Some people like stuff like this. I love Brubaker and Murder in the First because it simultaneously disgusts me and pisses me off how people can be so cruel.

I was being an extremist in my previous post to prove a point. You said something about violence and deviant behavior toward children... the same issues were discussed in Sleepers and Primal Fear.


By all means, let's make sure we cater to the pedophile demographic. What a joke. It is sad how sick society has become.
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