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CaliforniaChief · 05-29-2009, 08:24 AM

I did notice that Fresno stole 5 bases against Hoch. Didn't he have a problem with that up with KC too?

**ChiTown** · 05-29-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I did notice that Fresno stole 5 bases against Hoch. Didn't he have a problem with that up with KC too?

His delivery is so loopy, that guys tend to get a very good jump on him.

This year, in 3 starts
OAK - 1 SB
BALT - 1 SB
STLooser - 2 SB's

**petegz28** · 05-29-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

His delivery is so loopy, that guys tend to get a very good jump on him.

This year, in 3 starts
OAK - 1 SB
BALT - 1 SB
STLooser - 2 SB's

Besides the fact he never thinks to check the runners.

**ChiTown** · 05-29-2009, 08:50 AM

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Besides the fact he never thinks to check the runners.

Didn't he pick off a Baltimore base runner?

**Dartgod** · 05-29-2009, 08:51 AM

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Yep, he's coming back up next weekend, I believe.

I keep waiting to see that flash that you'd see from a young Greinke, or from even Kyle Davies at times. Something that tells you the kid has "it". I just have yet to see ANYTHING from him when he's been in the starting rotation.

3K's, 7BB's 14ER's and 2HR's in 11+ innings in 3 starts. That's fk'd up!

I thought he had a pretty good start in St. Loser.

**ChiTown** · 05-29-2009, 09:01 AM

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I thought he had a pretty good start in St. Loser.

It was his longest outing of the year, but he was anything but sharp. He managed 1 K in 6+ innings in STL while giving up 2 BB's, 7 hits and 4 ER's.

My expectations are higher than that for a nearly 26 yr old former #1 overall pick.

**Dartgod** · 05-29-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

It was his longest outing of the year, but he was anything but sharp. He managed 1 K in 6+ innings in STL while giving up 2 BB's, 7 hits and 4 ER's.

My expectations are higher than that for a nearly 26 yr old former #1 overall pick.

For the #4 starter, at this point I'd take that every time. Yeah, it wasn't what we expect out of a #1 pick, but at this point we need to take any improvement we can get.

Also, IIRC, at least one of those ER came from shoddy defensive play. There was an overthrown cutoff man in the first inning that allowed another runner to get into scoring position. I think they would have only scored 1 run in the first instead of two if the proper throw had been made.

EDIT: Nevermind. I just looked at the play by play for that game and it didn't go down like I described. It was probably another game where our shoddy defense gave up an earned run.

**ChiTown** · 05-29-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

For the #4 starter, at this point I'd take that every time. Yeah, it wasn't what we expect out of a #1 pick, but at this point we need to take any improvement we can get.

Also, IIRC, at least one of those ER came from shoddy defensive play. There was an overthrown cutoff man in the first inning that allowed another runner to get into scoring position. I think they would have only scored 1 run in the first instead of two if the proper throw had been made.

True that.

Again, I'm looking at this from a different perspective than most, I guess. If this kid only makes into the Bigs as a #4, then we, yet again, massively failed in our evaluation with one of the top draft picks. I'm disgusted with that more than anything else.

I'm still holding out a sliver of hope that he could actually be a solid #2 some day. However, that looks like a massive pipe dream at this point.

**petegz28** · 05-29-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Didn't he pick off a Baltimore base runner?

Might have. I was thinking more of the Sizemore trip around the bases and the multiple steals from the Cards.

I never said he couldn't pick guys off. I said he doesn't check the runners. Which is how Sizemore stole 2nd and the very next pitch stole 3rd. Cause Luke wasn't even looking over at him at all.

**ChiTown** · 05-29-2009, 09:19 AM

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Might have. I was thinking more of the Sizemore trip around the bases and the multiple steals from the Cards.

I never said he couldn't pick guys off. I said he doesn't check the runners. Which is how Sizemore stole 2nd and the very next pitch stole 3rd. Cause Luke wasn't even looking over at him at all.

I was banging on your use of "never" checks the runners.

**petegz28** · 05-29-2009, 09:22 AM

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I was banging on your use of "never" checks the runners.

K well I think generally speaking I am right. He doesn't pay much attention to them until they steal on him once or twice and he remembers he has to do it.

**petegz28** · 05-29-2009, 09:23 AM

How sad is it when Bannister has a better WHIP than Meche?

Sure-Oz · 05-29-2009, 10:30 AM

I remember hearing how he'd be the next kevin brown or somethign, epic fail by the royals (hochevar)

CaliforniaChief · 05-29-2009, 11:19 AM

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I remember hearing how he'd be the next kevin brown or somethign, epic fail by the royals (hochevar)

My best hope for Hoch. is to be something along the lines of Derek Lowe. I'd take that, but it would certainly be a disappointment for a #1 pick.

And Pete, you raise a great point. Just checking the runners and holding them close is something simple that ANY pitcher can do to help himself. I wonder if he changes his release point with guys on base and McClure just told him to "not worry about the runners." Obviously he's not too concerned.

OmahaChief · 05-30-2009, 07:03 AM

Lenny DiNardo with another good start at Omaha last night.

6 Innings 1ER 1W 5H 6K

Brings his season totals to

4-1
3.29 ERA
52 IP 41H 10W 39K

He has started 7 games this year. Guy is a veteran lefty that just might be the guy we have been looking for as a fifth starter. I know they really would like a lefty in KC so Lenny should get a shot soon.

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05-30-2009, 07:03 AM	#465
OmahaChief Down with Nino Brown Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Omaha Casino cash: $9425000	Lenny DiNardo with another good start at Omaha last night. 6 Innings 1ER 1W 5H 6K Brings his season totals to 4-1 3.29 ERA 52 IP 41H 10W 39K He has started 7 games this year. Guy is a veteran lefty that just might be the guy we have been looking for as a fifth starter. I know they really would like a lefty in KC so Lenny should get a shot soon.
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