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http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...a-starter.html Watching the quarterbacks Among the 3 quarterbacks on the roster, the guy who threw the ball best on Thursday was Brady Quinn. He appears to have solid mechanics in his drop and has smoothed out some rough edges that were visible in his motion going back to Notre Dame. Matt Cassel threw several nice passes, but he was high on his throws during much of the session. Ricky Stanzi was OK. @Iowa homers. “I think they’re beginning to gain a command of the system and some of the checks that we have in place,” Crennel said. “They’re all doing well. Probably, Brady and Matt are a little ahead of Stanzi right now, but they’re all working at it. They’re a good group in that room, so we feel good about them.” |
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Matt Cassel vs San Diego Chargers 2011: 17/24 176 7.33 2 TD 1 INT Matt Cassel vs Minnesota Vikings 2011: 18/29 260 8.97 1 TD 0 INT Matt Cassel vs Indianapolis Colts 2011: 21/29 257 8.86 4 TD 0 INT That is a better 3 game stretch is it not? 56/82 693 8.45 7 TD 1 INT A 68% completion percentage with 8.45 avg/att, over three games? Heh. Admit it, you knew you were being dishonest when you posted. Admit it, underhanded and sneaky doesn't look good on ya... |
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In the first three games of the year, two of which you mentioned and I've bolded above, the defense gave up 20, 20, and 17 points before halftime. In the first two games, against the Bills and the Lions, the team wasn't so much exhausted, but you could literally see that they had given up. In the third game, against the Chargers, they decided enough was enough and got their heads out of their asses and only allowed 3 pts. in the second half. You don't recall the defense giving up 109 pts. in the first three games? Not saying none of that had to do with the offense, b/c some of it, especially the DET game, did. However, I think our entire offense stunk, in every facet to start the season. Haley and Muir hadn't quite gotten the telephone game down yet... |
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I think anyone with 2 working eyes can see Orton was light years ahead of Cassel in the fact that he was actually a QB. Even funnier is that Orton is just an average QB but yet in 3 starts with a new team coming off an injury managed two 300 yard games (Something casserole has only done 3 times since coming to KC) and helped beat a playoff team with a winning record ( Does anyone really think we would have won the Green Bay game with Cassel? ). |
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Only 3 times since Cassel came to KC has he had back to back games where he passed for 200 or more yards. Only 1 time did he make it a 3 game stretch throwing for 200 yards or more. Only 4 times in his KC career has he strung together consecutive games of completing 60% of his passes and out of those 4 times only 2 of those times consisted of more than 2 games back to back with that percentage. One being 3 games and the other for 5. He has had a whopping 3 games where he exceeded 300 yards passing as a Chief (In comparison Orton making his first 3 starts with a new team here coming off an injury had 2 300 yard games lol). He has had 18 games in KC where he completed less than 55% of his pass attempts and out of those 18 games 4 of those he had a completion percentage in the 40's and 2 games in the 30's. He has had 22 games as a Chief where he failed to even pass for 200 yards, 10 of those games he failed to even gain 150 yards passing and 6 of those games he couldn't even muster a full 100 yards. He has had 15 games where he averaged less than 6 yards per attempt as a Chief. Also as a Chief he has 22 games with a QB rating under 80 and since his arrival in KC he has had 19 games where his TD to INT ratio has been either even or more INT's than TD's. Can we please stop trying to pretend Cassel has had consistent stretches of anything other than being below average? Cassel has a had a full 16 games as a Chief where he failed to even pass for a 150 yards. There is no defense for this and it is pathetic to even attempt. |
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It's as if you think I'm defending Cassel as our starter. I'm not, I'm arguing with idiots on the internet about whether Orton is an upgrade of not. He's not. Cassel and Orton are essentially the same QB when throwing the ball under 30 yds. After that, Orton leaves Cassel in the dust. Of course, Cassel has a pretty big edge on redzone performance, so I call it a wash. Equal guys have different advantages. I'll take Cassel for .5-1 more year, and try my luck with Stanzi or a 1st round QB next year thanks. **** Quinn, he couldn't lead a herd of lemmings over a cliff. Last edited by aturnis; 05-28-2012 at 02:28 AM.. |
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Keeping Orton would have been a much better stopgap solution than keeping Cassel and would foster a much better environment to bring along young players at all of our offensive positions. I don't think anyone here viewed Orton as the answer, just someone we could plug in at QB until we get a guy we can groom in there. Cassel is not even good enough to serve this role. |
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We do have a QB on the roster to groom. Stanzi is, and has been the best QB on the roster. Only thing he lacks is experience. Give them time to groom him, he should be ready to go soon. If not Stanzi, then and 1st round QB. In that case, I don't think there will be any grooming, unless we get ourselves into a situation where we seriously reach like the Dolphins did for Tannehill. |
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i've been a KC Chief fan since 89, we've had some bad QB's throughout that period but i swear i dont think i ever recall as many three and outs as what Cassel has been able to post in three seasons.
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