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Old 07-14-2015, 07:36 PM  
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***Official 2015 STL Cardinals Thread II***
2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance
2015 Clinched Central Division title and Home Field advantage in the playoffs. First team in MLB to win 100 games since 2011.

  • Made the postseason 11 times in the last 15 seasons.
  • Only 1 losing season since 2000.
  • Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:53 AM   #466
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Also, a buddy in my Friday game has season tickets to the cards here in Springfield, said Reyes was pretty good the other night. Hope to get to catch a start or two if possible.

What's the timeline with Reyes?
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:01 PM   #467
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Anyone else n here for the finale?
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:48 PM   #468
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:49 PM   #469
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:01 PM   #470
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Martinez is our best pitcher right now.
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:05 PM   #473
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Martinez is our best pitcher right now.
Yea but Lackey isn't far behind.
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:14 PM   #476
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I'm not the biggest price fan, but he came up in conversation today with some friends.

Personally, with our ability to locate pitching I'd be hesitant but it's either way.
What is this team's greatest strength? Starting pitching.

Why would you pay a significant price to bolster the team's greatest strength when there are so many other glaring weaknesses, like 1B and a legitimate LH bench bat.

We still need another LH reliever, as Scroate isn't trustworthy and Siegrist has a bad reverse platoon split. Theoretically, they could do that with Cooney/Lyons, but I doubt that Elder Choate gets bumped.

Lynn, Lackey, Martinez, Garcia, Wacha


If healthy, Lynn, Lackey and Garcia will certainly start in the postseason. If the org has a brain in their heads they'd start Martinez as the #2 or #3, but we'll see.

So you have to ask yourself this from a playoff perspective: what is the marginal value between David Price and Jaime Garcia/Carlos Martinez? Is it likely to make more of a difference than having a legitimate 1B or a LHR who can actually be trusted against lefties?

I don't think so. For other teams, sure, but not this one.
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What is this team's greatest strength? Starting pitching.

Why would you pay a significant price to bolster the team's greatest strength when there are so many other glaring weaknesses, like 1B and a legitimate LH bench bat.

We still need another LH reliever, as Scroate isn't trustworthy and Siegrist has a bad reverse platoon split. Theoretically, they could do that with Cooney/Lyons, but I doubt that Elder Choate gets bumped.

Lynn, Lackey, Martinez, Garcia, Wacha


If healthy, Lynn, Lackey and Garcia will certainly start in the postseason. If the org has a brain in their heads they'd start Martinez as the #2 or #3, but we'll see.

So you have to ask yourself this from a playoff perspective: what is the marginal value between David Price and Jaime Garcia/Carlos Martinez? Is it likely to make more of a difference than having a legitimate 1B or a LHR who can actually be trusted against lefties?

I don't think so. For other teams, sure, but not this one.
I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm not sure there's a 1st baseman out there or one that's available. A lhr yes, easily.

The price inquisition was more so for a long term situation but he's a bit older than I had thought
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I don't necessarily disagree, but I'm not sure there's a 1st baseman out there or one that's available. A lhr yes, easily.

The price inquisition was more so for a long term situation but he's a bit older than I had thought
It still doesn't make sense to add him, even for long term purposes. He'll cost a fortune, and someone posted our projected rotation for the next few years, and we simply don't need him. Pay Carlos and/or Wacha instead.
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It still doesn't make sense to add him, even for long term purposes. He'll cost a fortune, and someone posted our projected rotation for the next few years, and we simply don't need him. Pay Carlos and/or Wacha instead.
Yeah, but I don't necessarily see the long term staff that strong.

Wacha and Carlos you hope are your 1 and 2 stoppers but Lynn is probably gone when that deal is up, lackey is aged, I don't think you can rely of Jaime much etc and while Reyes has a monster upside, tinstapp applies there.
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