Chiefs tried to trade Charles

[Hammock Parties]

http://kan.scout.com/2/934713.html

With Texas headed for a National Championship showdown with Alabama, two former Longhorns now playing for the Chiefs performed as if they were back in college and dominating inferior competition Sunday afternoon.

Jamaal Charles and Derrick Johnson ended the Broncos’ playoff hopes and opened positive floodgates for the 2010 Chiefs during a 44-24 win in Denver.

If you had told me before this game that Matt Cassel would only throw for 207 yards, Dwayne Bowe and Charles would catch only one pass combined and Kyle "Pro Bowl" Orton would throw for 431 yards, I’d have sworn the Chiefs would have lost on Sunday to end their miserable 2009 season. Instead, they played their best football game of the season.

With Charles setting a Chiefs’ single-game rushing record with 259 yards and Johnson scoring two touchdowns off interception returns, have we seen the birth of the new Chiefs? Did we just witness the genesis of the team we’ll see next season?

It won’t hurt if both Texas standouts are on the roster come September. Charles is a lock, but Johnson is a free agent and has not been a happy camper in Kansas City since Haley arrived with his in-your-face coaching style.

Charles’ big day almost didn’t happen. Before the trade deadline in October, Chiefs’ general manager Scott Pioli offered Charles to the Redskins for a paltry fifth-round pick. But Washington GM Vinny Cerrato felt that was too high a price to pay for a backup running back. That might be why Cerrato was fired last month.

The Chiefs held onto Charles and he has paid huge dividends. A year ago, former Chiefs Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich told me Charles was going to be a special running back, and that’s why he pushed former GM Carl Peterson to draft him in the third round.

Charles is clearly the go-to back in Kansas City based on his second-half performance this season. Kansas City now has the luxury of pursuing other needs on offense in free agency and the draft.

Johnson, even though he was primarily used in passing situations, clearly has still been KC’s best inside linebacker all season long. The Chiefs now need to make a strong play to keep him, because he’s talented enough that he’ll go somewhere else and succeed.

Charles and Johnson weren’t the only bright spots Sunday. Early, it became clear that the Chiefs were ready to play from the opening snap. The first play on offense was a 50-yard bomb to little-used wide receiver Terrance Copper, sending a message to the Broncos that the Chiefs weren’t going to lie down.

The Chiefs kept punching the Broncos in the mouth until they delivered the knockout punch – Charles’ 52-yard touchdown gallop - that eliminated Denver from the playoff race. Just for that, this game has special meaning. Chiefs fans can live the entire offseason knowing their team ended the season of an AFC West Rival that started 6-0. While New York's win Sunday night also would have eliminated the Broncos, the Chiefs had the pleasure of taking away Denver's hope early.

Who’s the better coach now? Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels? We’ll have plenty of time to debate that this offseason.

Haley showed something Sunday and will get another season to turn the ship around in Kansas City. We should have no problem with that, especially if the reports are accurate that Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis will soon be taking over KC’s offense and defense. Crennel and Weis would give Haley two former head coaches to bounce ideas off, and that could be enough to make a huge difference next season.

This season was full of bitter disappointment for the Chiefs and for the most part it was a negative year that warranted harsh criticism. But Monday morning, that doesn’t matter. The Chiefs are undefeated in 2010. Now we wait nine months for the next game.

[Hootie]

I'll dumb it down for you:

When Matt Cassel has a good game statistically (according to the QB rating), it is because he made those stats in garbage time.

But when I try and make a point that Tyler Thigpen had the worst game I've ever seen from a QB, someone tries to refute MY OPINION by posting a QB rating of Matt Cassel this year.

I live in Illinois, I've seen Rex Grossman put up a 0.0 QB rating. Even that game was better than the game Tyler Thigpen had last year against the Falcons.

Matt Schaub threw a pick yesterday that bounced off of Jacoby Jones' hands...I'm pretty sure that goes against his QB rating, not Jones' WR rating.

Again...QB rating can give you an idea, but it doesn't necessarily paint an accurate picture.

I guess everyone forgets Huard and his 100 QB rating in 2006.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

how is that incoherent?

That was pretty ****ing clear buddy.

Try re-reading.

Do they make Rosetta Stone: Frat-Tard?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Hootie

how is that incoherent?

That was pretty ****ing clear buddy.

Try re-reading.

I put my rambling decoder glasses on, let me know if I hit something...

Are you implying that Cassel had games with a good QB rating, but he accumulated the stats in garbage time?

If so, that happened once. Philly. You know, The game where he threw for 90 yards?

Otherwise, the only game he had a QB rating over 100 is the Steelers game - which we won, and he actually played decent.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Again...QB rating can give you an idea, but it doesn't necessarily paint an accurate picture.

I guess everyone forgets Huard and his 100 QB rating in 2006.

The same Huard that you defended incessantly is now the one you use to show the fallacy of QB rating, and I'm the hypocrite?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Do they make Rosetta Stone: Frat-Tard?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The same Huard that you defended incessantly is now the one you use to show the fallacy of QB rating, and I'm the hypocrite?

And boom goes the dynamite.

Game, set and mother****ing match.

Seriously, this is like debating with the love child of Terri Schaivo and Merrill Hoge.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The same Huard that you defended incessantly is now the one you use to show the fallacy of QB rating, and I'm the hypocrite?

No...I never said Huard was a good QB...ever.

I said he was the best chance we had at winning...because he threw the ball to a covered Tony Gonzalez and it worked out more often than not...something Trent Green wouldn't do...

There are hundreds and hundreds of posts where I've always said Huard wasn't a good QB...just the right QB for that Herm Edwards team...

but I was right and 90% of the board was wrong and we all moved on...

[Hootie]

Oh my god!

Wow.

What do you know everyone?

hamas and otwp are following each other around with emoticons!

What do you know? This is certainly something new!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Hootie in this thread:

[Inspector]

I knew exactly what was going to happen but forgot to tell anyone.

Don't ask me to make any predictions now because, for some reason, I've lost the gift.

[Hootie]

Hamas said earlier this year that Tony Romo was the worst QB in the NFL...but he's bashing me for bashing Thigpen after his performance against Atlanta last year...without ever looking at my posts where I compared him to a Tony Romo light all of last year after his nice little stretch...a more raw version of Tony Romo (who got to watch from the sidelines for 4+ years)...

Of course I was the first one on this board to dub Jamaal Charles "Chris Johnson light" but I'm just a moron...(and I might be since he might even be just as good as CJ...drop the light)

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Hootie

DeezNutz took Cassel over Romo.

Well, that statement was full of fail on my part.

Obviously, I was trusting in the wisdom of Pioli.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Hootie in this thread:

See this is all you ever have against me...

If people really do "win" threads...

I'd love to see someone without bias look at this thread between our posts...but make them "ghost style" without the username and then try and tell me that you're "winning" this thread against me.

You've looked like a moron the whole ****ing time...just because OTWP is chasing you around with emoticons doesn't mean a thing...that dude took Athan's story as gospel early in this thread to further push his anti-Pioli/Haley agenda...

Remember when you left the board forever? You can't ****ing STAND being in the minority and having people fire back at you....but you're too stubborn to ever admit when you're wrong...I bet your head will explode if we ever win this division under this regime.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Hootie

See this is all you ever have against me...

If people really do "win" threads...

I'd love to see someone without bias look at this thread between our posts...but make them "ghost style" without the username and then try and tell me that you're "winning" this thread against me.

You've looked like a moron the whole ****ing time...just because OTWP is chasing you around with emoticons doesn't mean a thing...that dude took Athan's story as gospel early in this thread to further push his anti-Pioli/Haley agenda...

Remember when you left the board forever? You can't ****ing STAND being in the minority and having people fire back at you....but you're too stubborn to ever admit when you're wrong...I bet your head will explode if we ever win this division under this regime.

Here we go again with Hootie's delusions...

I was in the thread first, ****stick. I'm not following anyone. I'm simply agreeing with his post.

You wouldn't know anything about that, considering people rarely, if ever agree with you.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I never said he was the worst in the NFL...ever.

Again, keep making shit up, because you can't deal with reality.