You guys really have weepy vaginas!!!!!!!

[God of Thunder]

Wow. He looks pathetic out there. You guys were crying like babies when KC didn't draft him.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by O.city

Um, no.

I liked him, but said he had problems. I would have like for us to have drafted him, but I realized what he wasn't and moved on.

Sure you have.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It doesn't matter who is on the other end of the debate.

Christ, people think we got the best QB of the class as an UDFA.

Time will tell.

At this time last year, Nassib and Glennon weren't on anyone's radar. Wilson was busy ****ing up his senior season (and is currently on a practice squad) and Barkley (weak arm and all) was disappointing for USC.

Glennon's clearly the Next Man Up in Tampa (especially with all of their Freeman issues).

Barkley, Wilson, Nassib and Bray won't see the field in 2013 (and maybe even 2014) unless there's a catastrophic injury.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs fan base and season ticket holders just endured the worst season in Franchise History.

Four of the last six were amongst the worst, if not the worst stretch in the past 50 years. Yet, the solution should have been to draft a QB at 1.1 that was clearly incapable turning around the fortunes of the franchise immediately?

Seriously?

You'd ask this fan base to endure watching a QB on pace to throw 32 INT's? He hasn't even faced a real defense yet.

What if we had drafted one of the quarterbacks 1.1, pick your flavor, and we go to 1-15? Next year though we go 8-8. Year after 11-5, and then 13-3 and Super Bowl champs.

Would that be worth more than going 8-8 or 10-6 the first two years?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It doesn't matter who is on the other end of the debate.

Christ, people think we got the best QB of the class as an UDFA.

I think it absolutely matters when we're talking about a guy who completely bottomed out in the draft. For every Aaron Rodgers, there is a Jimmy Clausen and a Brady Quinn.

I would have liked a QB, but I'm thinking more and more it should have been Manuel.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

What if we had drafted one of the quarterbacks 1.1, pick your flavor, and we go to 1-15? Next year though we go 8-8. Year after 11-5, and then 13-3 and Super Bowl champs.

Would that be worth more than going 8-8 or 10-6 the first two years?

That's complete and utter speculation.

On top of that, you're asking an already impatient fan base to endure two more years of shit football, with absolutely no guarantee of success.

I can absolutely assure you that if the Chiefs had drafted a Geno Smith-type QB at 1.1, I would not have renewed the Sunday Ticket. I have enough issues with justifying three hours every Sunday away from my young children.

I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one that would feel that way.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

What if we had drafted one of the quarterbacks 1.1, pick your flavor, and we go to 1-15? Next year though we go 8-8. Year after 11-5, and then 13-3 and Super Bowl champs.

Would that be worth more than going 8-8 or 10-6 the first two years?

**** that 13-3 junk.

The Giants and Packers won SBs with 10-6 and 9-7 records. Who gives a shit about having a great regular season? NE has proven what a waste of time that is.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Because I as a fan have an impact on who they trade for/draft, etc?

Yes the entire Kansas City Chiefs fanbase is stupid and doesn't deserve an elite franchise QB because some people on a message board notorious for over-exaggerations and brutality have criticized shitty play of some young QBs, especially QBs on other teams, when the general consensus here is "**** other teams and their ****ing shitty players". KANSAS CITY DOESN'T DESERVE IT! THANKS CP! YOU MADE US UNWORTHY!

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's complete and utter speculation.

On top of that, you're asking an already impatient fan base to endure two more years of shit football, with absolutely no guarantee of success.

I can absolutely assure you that if the Chiefs had drafted a Geno Smith-type QB at 1.1, I would not have renewed the Sunday Ticket. I have enough issues with justifying three hours every Sunday away from my young children.

I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one that would feel that way.

So you wouldn't have had the patience for what happened to Dallas in the early 90s?

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's complete and utter speculation.

On top of that, you're asking an already impatient fan base to endure two more years of shit football, with absolutely no guarantee of success.

I can absolutely assure you that if the Chiefs had drafted a Geno Smith-type QB at 1.1, I would not have renewed the Sunday Ticket. I have enough issues with justifying three hours every Sunday away from my young children.

I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one that would feel that way.

Exactly right. It's easy for some fans to accept more shit years for the chance of developing a franchise QB that can be great later.. but the teams and coaches can't accept that approach, and neither should any fan.

What if with this vet QB, the Chiefs can win 9 games this season and 12 the next while also developing a young QB to take the team to the ultimate level?
(if so intent that this vet now can not )

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's complete and utter speculation.

On top of that, you're asking an already impatient fan base to endure two more years of shit football, with absolutely no guarantee of success.

I can absolutely assure you that if the Chiefs had drafted a Geno Smith-type QB at 1.1, I would not have renewed the Sunday Ticket. I have enough issues with justifying three hours every Sunday away from my young children.

I'm pretty certain I'm not the only one that would feel that way.

You wouldn't want to watch? We could have Pigeon McBuffalochip at QB and I'd still have to watch every week. I can't help it. It's entertainment to me no matter what happens. Last year was tough though....very tough. Still entertaining in a disaster movie type of way though.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

So you wouldn't have had the patience for what happened to Dallas in the early 90s?

Patience? Sure. Spent my Sundays watching them or caring? No.

At this point in my life, there are far more important things happening than watching a QB "lead" a team to a 1-15 record.

After enduring 4-12, 2-14, 4-12 and the worst season in franchise history at 2-14, I would not be watching right now if they chose to start a guy that wasn't NFL ready.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

So you wouldn't have had the patience for what happened to Dallas in the early 90s?

Are the Chiefs going to trade Jamaal Charles for a load of draft picks?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by lcarus

You wouldn't want to watch? We could have Pigeon McBuffalochip at QB and I'd still have to watch every week. I can't help it. It's entertainment to me no matter what happens. Last year was tough though....very tough. Still entertaining in a disaster movie type of way though.

I'm nearly 48 years old. I have a one year old and a five year old.

I'd rather be at Disneyland with my family on Sunday than watch a 1-15 team go 1-15.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm nearly 48 years old. I have a one year old and a five year old.

I'd rather be at Disneyland with my family on Sunday than watch a 1-15 team go 1-15.

I see. I'm only 30 and no wife or kids. I can tell my love for obsessively tuning in to my favorite sports teams is dipping a LITTLE bit. I'll get there.

[ChiefsCountry]

So we are back to being the 90s Chiefs. I would rather be the 90s Cowboys. I'll take another down and shitty year if it means we are a threat to win a Super Bowl every year.