Football Miami's Martin leaves team after 'emotional breakdown' - Page 33

Mr. Laz · 10-30-2013, 05:07 PM

Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown'

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m.
An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week.

NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources.

Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground."

The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources.

Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday.

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**Rain Man** · 11-04-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I think there's more to the story than these texts and high priced dinners. I have no idea what it is, but I think Martin being gay is a possibility.

If, when you ask if it matters, you mean do I think that would justify mistreatment, the answer is no.

I kind of think the "more" part is Incognito being voted the NFL's dirtiest player, being kicked off two college teams for bad behavior, and being labeled as undraftable for character reasons by at least one NFL team and likely many more.

patteeu · 11-04-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What a load of horseshit that post is.

Perhaps Incognito is keeping Martin from morphing into The Beast by constantly bullying him and that's why he's doing it. Or, perhaps an asshole with a history of being an asshole at Nebraska, Oregon, St. Louis, and now on voicemail in Miami, is just an asshole.

Furthermore, I suggest you look up what a connotation is, because either you're willfully being obtuse and full of shit (which is the likely case) or you have no idea what the connotations are of the words you use and how you structure them.

I looked up the word "unspeakable" instead in an attempt to figure out why you think it's so important for information about Martin's sexuality to be kept hidden? What is it you think is so bad about homosexuality?

**Rain Man** · 11-04-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm completely convinced that Incognito is a total piece of shit. However, there could be circumstances that would make it less reprehensible.

Martin is notoriously soft mentally. Maybe he lets trash talk into his head during games, so Incognito said that he would harass Martin until he learned to ignore it...kind of like what drill sergeants do.

I think it's worth hearing his side.

If Incognito has a story, he'd better share it really, really fast, because the story is growing far past his ability to impact it. I think if he had a story he would have shared it by now.

GoChargers · 11-04-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I looked up the word "unspeakable" instead in an attempt to figure out why you think it's so important for information about Martin's sexuality to be kept hidden? What is it you think is so bad about homosexuality?

You can drop the act now, it's pretty clear why you are fixating so much on Martin's sexuality.

patteeu · 11-04-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I kind of think the "more" part is Incognito being voted the NFL's dirtiest player, being kicked off two college teams for bad behavior, and being labeled as undraftable for character reasons by at least one NFL team and likely many more.

Do you think that's why Mike Wallace has so much respect for him?

**Saul Good** · 11-04-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

If Incognito has a story, he'd better share it really, really fast, because the story is growing far past his ability to impact it. I think if he had a story he would have shared it by now.

I agree...but I'm not talking about the likelihood of him having this alibi. I'm just trying to establish that context could, in fact, matter.

patteeu · 11-04-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

You can drop the act now, it's pretty clear why you are fixating so much on Martin's sexuality.

I tried to make it as clear as possible. I'd be fascinated to hear your take though.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-04-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I looked up the word "unspeakable" instead in an attempt to figure out why you think it's so important for information about Martin's sexuality to be kept hidden? What is it you think is so bad about homosexuality?

Obvious red herring is obvious.

I'm not the one who mentioned his absence of a girlfriend/wife as though it is relevant to this story. Does it matter if Incognito is a homophobe in addition to being a racist? Does that make him less heinous? What relevance does Martin's sexuality have to the story?

**Rain Man** · 11-04-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Do you think that's why Mike Wallace has so much respect for him?

I don't know enough about Mike Wallace to know whether I value his opinion or not. Or whether Incognito told him, "Tweet something nice about me or I'll kill your parents." Wallace's statement seemed pretty stilted.

GoChargers · 11-04-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Do you think that's why Mike Wallace has so much respect for him?

It's not a surprise that the guy who pouts even when his team wins if he doesn't get the number of targets he wants would come out and defend a team cancer like Incognito.

BigCatDaddy · 11-04-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Do you think that's why Mike Wallace has so much respect for him?

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I agree...but I'm not talking about the likelihood of him having this alibi. I'm just trying to establish that context could, in fact, matter.

Hooties two white knights now white knighting Richie Incognito

What's up with the need to defend douche bags?

Marcellus · 11-04-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I don't know enough about Mike Wallace to know whether I value his opinion or not. Or whether Incognito told him, "Tweet something nice about me or I'll kill your parents." Wallace's statement seemed pretty stilted.

My guess is Mike Wallace had no clue what was really going on.

Rams Fan · 11-04-2013, 10:12 PM

Incognito has, was, is, and always will be a piece of shit.

tk13 · 11-04-2013, 10:12 PM

I can't believe people are using Mike Wallace as a barometer of anything. This is the same guy who pouted after the Dolphins won in week 1 because he only had 1 catch.

**Rain Man** · 11-04-2013, 10:12 PM

I found it interesting that one of the ESPN segments said, "The Dolphins said that Martin in no way accused or blamed Incognito of anything," and yet the league has the voice mails and texts. That tells me that, rightly or wrongly, Martin is truly frightened of what Incognito might do.

How did the Incognito connection first emerge, anyway? I don't recall. I know he was involved in the cafeteria incident, but how did he get accused of a bigger role?

10-30-2013, 05:07 PM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Miami's Martin leaves team after 'emotional breakdown' Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown' By Dan Hanzus Around the League Writer Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m. An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week. NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources. Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground." The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources. Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday. The "Around The League Podcast" is now available on iTunes! Click here to listen and subscribe.
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