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Old 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM  
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Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

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Old 09-14-2016, 04:51 PM   #481
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All of the outstanding moves Dorsey has made over the years, and he needs to be crucified over this?

Whatever, have at it... guess we need something to talk about
Exactly. I don't even agree with the decision, but who really gives a **** at this point?
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Old 09-14-2016, 04:59 PM   #482
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Exactly. I don't even agree with the decision, but who really gives a **** at this point?
There is clearly a backstory to this thing a mile long, until we know the details I would think this regime has earned some slack

Not liking it at face value, wondering WTF is one thing... but there are some pretty strongly worded posts in this thread
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Old 09-14-2016, 05:03 PM   #483
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There is clearly a backstory to this thing a mile long, until we know the details I would think this regime has earned some slack

Not liking it at face value, wondering WTF is one thing... but there are some pretty strongly worded posts in this thread
OTW is just a whiny bitch. I've never seen him say anything positive in my time here.

I mean, he said it himself. He doesn't give a **** about this team. I think that says all we need to know about his level of butthurt.

DJ is just bitching because he can feel right again about his draft day meltdown. That probably made him feel stupid for a while, but now he's got his confidence back, so that good.
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Old 09-14-2016, 05:05 PM   #484
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It's definitely a wtf move, but I certainly understand the concept that occasionally some people just need to go away. Quickly.
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Old 09-14-2016, 05:19 PM   #485
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OTW is just a whiny bitch. I've never seen him say anything positive in my time here.

I mean, he said it himself. He doesn't give a **** about this team. I think that says all we need to know about his level of butthurt.

DJ is just bitching because he can feel right again about his draft day meltdown. That probably made him feel stupid for a while, but now he's got his confidence back, so that good.
I'm not really calling anyone out, especially OTWP, too many times in the past I did so only to be proven completely wrong by the likes of Peterson and Pioli... sometimes crap is crap, and no amount of positive thought will fix it

It just seems to me that there is still an awful lot we dont know about this deal, and considering Dorseys track record with KC thus far... maybe the more pessimistic among us should step back a bit, and wait for further info

My own initial impression is that for this regime to make such a drastic move, Russell must have been a monstrous ****up
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Old 09-14-2016, 05:51 PM   #486
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smellway can be our KeiVarae Russell
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Old 09-14-2016, 06:22 PM   #487
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I love all the conspiracy theories. It can't just be that they feel White and Acker are simply better football players with more potential after seeing them on the field and there wasn't enough room on the roster to keep all of them.
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Old 09-14-2016, 06:41 PM   #488
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There were guys here calling him a day 1 starter after the draft. He must be a world class turd.
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Old 09-14-2016, 06:44 PM   #489
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Wouldn't be the first guy that only looked good against future insurance salesmen. At this point he's not goid enough for an NFL team.
He didn't even look that good against future insurance salesmen. Of all the guys that looked competent in the preseason, even against inferior talent, Russell was nearly invisible. Turns out he just sucks.
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Old 09-14-2016, 06:45 PM   #490
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I don't want to live in this world anymore.
Now he can go back and get his degree.
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Old 09-14-2016, 06:49 PM   #491
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True

But if that's the case, why the hell would you draft him early?
Because the Notre Dame coaching staff isn't one to shit on their players.

Hell, for all we know, Brian Kelly didn't want him back for his Senior season.
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Old 09-14-2016, 07:35 PM   #492
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I'm not sure why letting them hang around for a few unproductive years makes it any better. If you're sure the guy isn't going to work out, what's the point in stunting the development of other guys?
That's the fascinating question here. What could have made them so clear that nothing was going to change, improve, or progress with time. Can't be his play. You don't pick a guy in the 3rd round, be that excited about it, and cut him even if he looked like Cliff Clavin out there. Insane to go from loving his talent to we are confident his talent won't progress.

Even with the locker room issues, Reid is pretty confident in controlling guys and the locker room has leaders. What could possibly have happened, or continued to happen, that they just said "you're donezo." This second part seems more likely, but it's really intriguing to wonder what it could have been.
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Looking at this through a microscope, it's a bad thing. We blew a 3rd round pick. Might be less of a blow because some of the later round guys might pan out. But looking at the big picture, it's a positive, in my opinion. If a guy isn't on board with the program, if he's more into himself than the team, or if he's just not the player you thought he was, cut bait. Don't wait around. Pioli probably had to stick with guys like TJackson and Arenas because most of the rest of the roster was equally terrible. It's nice to finally be in a place depth-wise to be able to admit a mistake-or a programmatic non fit (props to Mike Childress)-and move on.
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Old 09-14-2016, 08:00 PM   #494
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Looking at this through a microscope, it's a bad thing. We blew a 3rd round pick. Might be less of a blow because some of the later round guys might pan out. But looking at the big picture, it's a positive, in my opinion. If a guy isn't on board with the program, if he's more into himself than the team, or if he's just not the player you thought he was, cut bait. Don't wait around. Pioli probably had to stick with guys like TJackson and Arenas because most of the rest of the roster was equally terrible. It's nice to finally be in a place depth-wise to be able to admit a mistake-or a programmatic non fit (props to Mike Childress)-and move on.
They "blew" a 3rd round pick created out of thin air.

While it sucks that Russell sucked, in the grand scheme of things, who ****ing cares?
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Looking at this through a microscope, it's a bad thing. We blew a 3rd round pick. Might be less of a blow because some of the later round guys might pan out. But looking at the big picture, it's a positive, in my opinion. If a guy isn't on board with the program, if he's more into himself than the team, or if he's just not the player you thought he was, cut bait. Don't wait around. Pioli probably had to stick with guys like TJackson and Arenas because most of the rest of the roster was equally terrible. It's nice to finally be in a place depth-wise to be able to admit a mistake-or a programmatic non fit (props to Mike Childress)-and move on.
it would be a bigger deal to me if this wasnt a veteran winning team. 99% of the positions were already set.

a good draft is getting 3 or 4 solid contributors. ultimately, does it really matter what round those players come from as long as your getting them??
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