Chiefs Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell - Page 34

RunKC · 09-14-2016, 08:25 AM

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

WOW

JohnnyHammersticks · 09-14-2016, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They "blew" a 3rd round pick created out of thin air.

While it sucks that Russell sucked, in the grand scheme of things, who ****ing cares?

Who ****ing cares? My mother just spent the last 3 months knitting me a KeiVarae Russell jersey. THAT'S who ****ing cares.

RunKC · 09-14-2016, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because the Notre Dame coaching staff isn't one to shit on their players.

Hell, for all we know, Brian Kelly didn't want him back for his Senior season.

Dorsey has been doing this for decades and I highly doubt he got swindled. A player drafted that high being cut so soon is not a good thing. It's not horrible, especially if White steps up, but it is a bad look for any GM to do this.

if this happened to the Broncos or Raiders, we'd all be laughing at them calling them morons.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

Who ****ing cares? My mother just spent the last 3 months knitting me a KeiVarae Russell jersey. THAT'S who ****ing cares.

Say hello to your mother for me

**Rain Man** · 09-14-2016, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

That's the fascinating question here. What could have made them so clear that nothing was going to change, improve, or progress with time. Can't be his play. You don't pick a guy in the 3rd round, be that excited about it, and cut him even if he looked like Cliff Clavin out there. Insane to go from loving his talent to we are confident his talent won't progress.

Even with the locker room issues, Reid is pretty confident in controlling guys and the locker room has leaders. What could possibly have happened, or continued to happen, that they just said "you're donezo." This second part seems more likely, but it's really intriguing to wonder what it could have been.

You can pretty much classify it as one of five factors:

1. Wasn't athletic enough.
2. Wasn't smart enough.
3. Bad attitude.
4. Off-field stuff was about to blow up.
5. So much talent and depth that a good player had to go.

#1 is highly doubtful. Too easy to measure.
#2 is possible, but a good athlete who's dumb can usually still find a place on a team.
#3 is likely, because it's something you can't fix and can affect other players.
#4 is quite possible, and if so we'll know soon.
#5 is possible, but you'd hope that a third-rounder would be one of the better players.

My bet is that he was riding deep on the bench and was pouting about it and being a bad locker room presence. I have no information at all to support that theory, but it just seems like the most likely thing other than an impending arrest.

**jjchieffan** · 09-14-2016, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Dorsey has been doing this for decades and I highly doubt he got swindled. A player drafted that high being cut so soon is not a good thing. It's not horrible, especially if White steps up, but it is a bad look for any GM to do this.

if this happened to the Broncos or Raiders, we'd all be laughing at them calling them morons.

Yep. In fact. I think that people were laughing at Tennessee for cutting last years high picks

jspchief · 09-14-2016, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They "blew" a 3rd round pick created out of thin air.

While it sucks that Russell sucked, in the grand scheme of things, who ****ing cares?

Please. You get as hard over draft picks as anyone on this site. Now you're going to pretend they don't matter? Hypocrite.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09-14-2016, 08:45 PM

Again, we get really caught up in individual players when really it's the players fitting into the system that matters the most. This is why we let Sean Smith walk...we utilized his body size to work certain schemes. But he got burned way too many times against high end receivers that he couldn't justify high end pay. His benching in Oakland supports this thought as does his mediocre play as a Dolphin.
Complain about the secondary all you want, the real problem is our inside linebackers. They look incompetent and DJ is showing his age. Teams are going to run the ball down our throats and set up 2nd down and short plays which put our defensive backs in very vulnerable positions.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Please. You get as hard over draft picks as anyone on this site. Now you're going to pretend they don't matter? Hypocrite.

**** off, twat.

I called him out weeks ago and said he should have been cut.

Where the **** have you been?

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09-14-2016, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Please. You get as hard over draft picks as anyone on this site. Now you're going to pretend they don't matter? Hypocrite.

I'm with Dane on this one. Seahawks and Pats are well known for maximizing picks by trading down . Seahawks have a handful of 5th rounders and undrafted players that have become absolute gems for their defense. And guess what, they are a helluva lot cheaper on those contracts

Let's not forget Spencer Ware is a 6th round pick as is Antonio Brown.. Doug Baldwin was undrafted and he's a #1 receiver now...

aturnis · 09-14-2016, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

That's because it's not a "character cut". It's a "culture cut". They don't feel like Russell fits the culture. Was that a mistake in judgement by Dorsey and our scouts? Yea, but let's stop comparing those two guys' situations, because it's apples and oranges.

Exactly this

milkman · 09-14-2016, 09:11 PM

The kid never flashed a single play in preseason.

If he did, they would have found other ways to deal with the "culture" issues.

The culture issues just make cutting the 3rd rounder more palatable.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09-14-2016, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

it would be a bigger deal to me if this wasnt a veteran winning team. 99% of the positions were already set.

a good draft is getting 3 or 4 solid contributors. ultimately, does it really matter what round those players come from as long as your getting them??

Bingo.

jettio · 09-14-2016, 09:33 PM

Maybe the stress fracture he had in his leg is not really healed. I would think he could be IR if that was the case but maybe he just does not move like he did before.

KChiefs1 · 09-14-2016, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

if this happened to the Broncos or Raiders, we'd all be laughing at them calling them morons.

Without a doubt.

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KChiefs1 · 09-14-2016, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

You can pretty much classify it as one of five factors:

1. Wasn't athletic enough.

2. Wasn't smart enough.

3. Bad attitude.

4. Off-field stuff was about to blow up.

5. So much talent and depth that a good player had to go.

#1 is highly doubtful. Too easy to measure.

#2 is possible, but a good athlete who's dumb can usually still find a place on a team.

#3 is likely, because it's something you can't fix and can affect other players.

#4 is quite possible, and if so we'll know soon.

#5 is possible, but you'd hope that a third-rounder would be one of the better players.

I think it's a combination of #2 & #3.

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