Chiefs Whitlock: Chiefs’ All-Pro guard Waters wants out of Kansas City

**Tribal Warfare** · 02-27-2009, 12:06 AM

Chiefs’ All-Pro guard Waters wants out of Kansas City
By JASON WHITLOCK
The Kansas City Star

Chiefs Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters asked the organization Thursday to release or trade him this offseason, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

Waters asked for his release two days after a brief meeting with new head coach Todd Haley and after being told by first-time general manager Scott Pioli that he had no interest in meeting with Waters, the source said.

Waters, according to the source, was offended and shocked by the arrogance of Haley and Pioli. Waters’ meeting with Haley and follow-up phone conversations confirmed in the nine-year vet’s mind that the negative reports about Haley that he heard from Arizona Cardinals players while at the Pro Bowl were accurate, according to the source.

The Cardinals players told Waters and tight end Tony Gonzalez that Haley, Arizona’s offensive coordinator, was aloof, condescending and ignored by veterans, the source said. Anquan Boldin, Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald Jr. — Arizona’s offensive stars — were all members of the NFC Pro Bowl team.

Haley could not be reached for comment Thursday night. Haley bickered with Boldin and Warner during the NFC championship game. And when he was an assistant with the Cowboys, Haley had several run-ins with flamboyant receiver Terrell Owens.

The source said when Waters informed Haley of his desire to relocate, Kansas City’s coach scolded Waters and indicated that the Chiefs would not release Waters from his contract. Waters signed a seven-year contract extension with the Chiefs in 2005. Waters, a four-time Pro Bowler, is 32 and would seemingly have decent trade value.

Waters declined public comment on Thursday.

He is the second high-priced Chiefs offensive star to ask for his release. Running back Larry Johnson has repeatedly asked to be let go. All-pro tight end Tony Gonzalez expressed disappointment when coach Herm Edwards was fired and has stated he will take a wait-and-see approach with the new regime.

Waters’ dissatisfaction is surprising given his reputation as a locker-room leader and his dedication to the organization. Waters is heavily involved in charitable activity in the Kansas City community and was a finalist for the NFL’s 2008 Man of the Year Award.

According to the source, Waters flew to Kansas City specifically to meet with Haley and Pioli and hear their plan for the direction of the organization. Pioli declined to meet with Waters, saying they had nothing to discuss, the source said. And Haley began his hallway conversation with Waters by proclaiming that 22 players off the street could win two games, the source said.

Waters considered his options Wednesday, flew to Dallas and then tried reaching owner Clark Hunt and Pioli before telling Haley on Thursday that he felt their differences were irreconcible, the source said.

Waters joined the Chiefs in 2000 and became a starter in 2001.

CaliforniaChief · 02-27-2009, 12:07 AM

Oh dear God.

**doomy3** · 02-27-2009, 12:08 AM

Wow. Pretty telling about what we can expect from Haley IMO.

Hammock Parties · 02-27-2009, 12:08 AM

Boo hoo, Waters. There's no head coach here to coddle you.

Archie Bunker · 02-27-2009, 12:09 AM

philfree · 02-27-2009, 12:11 AM

We're drafting an O.T. .....

PhilFree

**btlook1** · 02-27-2009, 12:09 AM

I hope this is just Fatlock blowing again....We need Waters he's the best O lineman that we have right now!

Hammock Parties · 02-27-2009, 12:10 AM

BOO HOO WATERS.

BOO ****ING HOO.

SIX MONTHS AGO YOU WERE BLOWING HERM EDWARDS.

AND

STFD

CaliforniaChief · 02-27-2009, 12:11 AM

"And Haley began his hallway conversation with Waters by proclaiming that 22 players off the street could win two games, the source said."

Epic smack...

**doomy3** · 02-27-2009, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

"And Haley began his hallway conversation with Waters by proclaiming that 22 players off the street could win two games, the source said."

Epic smack...

Damn. That's pretty crazy.

CaliforniaChief · 02-27-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3

Damn. That's pretty crazy.

Yeah, how does this happen?

WATERS: "Hi Todd, just wanted to check in and see h..."
HALEY: "22 players on the street could have won 2 games."
WATERS: "I'm shocked and offended."
HALEY: "What's your name?"
WATERS: "I'm gonna tell Jason Whitlock on you. Veterans are respected around here, ya know."
HALEY: "Sorry man. Herm's gone. Veterans aren't respected around here any more...they're released."

Archie Bunker · 02-27-2009, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

"And Haley began his hallway conversation with Waters by proclaiming that 22 players off the street could win two games, the source said."

Epic smack...

I love Todd Haley

Goldmember · 02-27-2009, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

"And Haley began his hallway conversation with Waters by proclaiming that 22 players off the street could win two games, the source said."

Epic smack...

That was pretty much what the Chiefs had last year

StcChief · 02-27-2009, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

"And Haley began his hallway conversation with Waters by proclaiming that 22 players off the street could win two games, the source said."

Epic smack...

22 guys off the street couldn't win any NFL games.
that's just a stupid comment.... smack not so much.

Mecca · 02-27-2009, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StcChief

22 guys off the street couldn't win any NFL games.
that's just a stupid comment.... smack not so much.

I don't think he means regular joes I think he means players off the street....

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