Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?

[BossChief]

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Don't get me wrong. They are both pretty terrible. But, Palko can actually hold a respectable completion %.

Tebow avg's 15 passes a game and completes only 47%.

Palko avg's 20 passes a game and completes 62%.

The only stat that counts is wins. Which one has a higher percentage of wins?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by splatbass

The only stat that counts is wins. Which one has a higher percentage of wins?

The Broncos aren't winning because Tebow is a good QB.

They are winning because their HC rewrote their entire offense to play on the strengths of the FB taking the snaps.

I would take Palko over Tebow.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I would take Palko over Tebow.

Then you are clearly a moron.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Dave

Then you are clearly a moron.

Ya, I'm a moron because I'd take the QB who is more accurate, throws for more yards, has a higher ypa, and throws more passes a game.

You are never going to win anything with either one of them. But Palko IS the better QB.

[Okie_Apparition]

3-1
The vocal majority doesn't reflect the overall majority
As in life

[BoneKrusher]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Ya, I'm a moron because I'd take the QB who is more accurate, throws for more yards, has a higher ypa, and throws more INTs a game.

FYP

[milkman]

I am surprised by the results of this poll.

Haley clearly has some problems to work out, but at this point, I don't really care either way.

Get this team a QB, and the rest will work itself out.

[Bronco Rob]

Todd Failey is Pioli fodder.



Failey didn't give Matt Ca$$el 64 MILLION dollars....


just sayin'












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[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Herm 15 wins as a chiefs coach in 3 years

Haley 19 wins under 3 years

Herm took over an old team with a lack of young talent.

Haley took over a team where several young stars were in place.

Herm had Huard, Croyle and Thigpen....which are all much worse than Cassel.

Haley has done some good things. And, if his answer at OC wasn't Bill Muir, then I would be behind him 100%.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

The Chiefs are going to be a pretty good team next year.

And it will be under Todd Haley.

Suddenly he will win back some of the people who are against him right now.

Mark it down. 11-5 in 2012. Results may vary depending upon quarterback.

I agree that the chiefs will be better. I agree that the Chiefs will be better even if Haley is the head coach.

But, is it enough? Will they ever be as good as they could be with a coach that could actually manage relationships?

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Ya, I'm a moron because I'd take the QB who is more accurate, throws for more yards, has a higher ypa, and throws more passes a game.

You are never going to win anything with either one of them. But Palko IS the better QB.

You underestimate a couple things.

#1) Tebows ability to avoid the big msitakes. Palko makes a lot of bad plays.

#2) Tebows ability to lead the team.

#3) Tebows ability to elevate his game when he needs to.

Palko isn't enough better as a passer to make up for any of these.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Herm took over an old team with a lack of young talent.

Haley took over a team where several young stars were in place.

Herm had Huard, Croyle and Thigpen....which are all much worse than Cassel.

Haley has done some good things. And, if his answer at OC wasn't Bill Muir, then I would be behind him 100%.

You're a ****ing idiot.

Cassel, sadly, is not better that Huard and Thigpen.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

3-1
The vocal majority doesn't reflect the overall majority
As in life

Vocal majority? Ok if it was 55-45 it might be that way, but better than 3-1. Sounds like the vocal minority is just butthurt.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Herm took over an old team with a lack of young talent.

Haley took over a team where several young stars were in place.

Herm had Huard, Croyle and Thigpen....which are all much worse than Cassel.

Haley has done some good things. And, if his answer at OC wasn't Bill Muir, then I would be behind him 100%.

His only way to get someone of choice was to promote from within. Otherwise Pioli gets to make the choice again. You think Pioli ever told Bellichick who his coaches were going to be?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Not sure what we are going to find out.

The Chiefs have scored less points than the ****ing Colts. He's a terrible coach.

The Chiefs are doing the same thing as Denver, but with much worse talent in the running game and worse QBs. The way the Chiefs are playing, yes, I think Tebow could have won the last 3 games for us.

Who cares about how many points they score? With Palko at the helm, the strategy is to keep the ball out of the hands of the QB and simplify the playcalling. And we can all day call out running Battle to the outside and Dex to the inside, but when we run Battle up the middle and Dex to the outside, those plays don't work either because defenses are prepared for it.

The offense is a lose-lose situation. We don't have either a RB or a QB that can take over.