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**KcMizzou** · 11-09-2010, 08:14 PM

I've been wondering why we Mizzou fans don't have one of these.

Mosbonian · 01-22-2012, 12:28 AM

I asked this earlier and no one answered...so I'll ask again.

I saw Ratliffe had 27 points in the game....which speaks for itself. But was he that dominating in the game? Did he really hold his own against Baylor's front line?

**KcMizzou** · 01-22-2012, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Mizzouri is good. Real good. Pressy looked like jason kidd out there

Thank God he didn't decide to go with uncle Mike.

**KcMizzou** · 01-22-2012, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian

I asked this earlier and no one answered...so I'll ask again.

I saw Ratliffe had 27 points in the game....which speaks for itself. But was he that dominating in the game? Did he really hold his own against Baylor's front line?

It wasn't like he was posting up and clowning guys, but he played perfectly in the Mizzou offense. Made himself available... put himself in position for good looks... caught all those crazy passes, and laid them up and in.

Rebounded his ass off, too. Just great effort, and focus.

**jjchieffan** · 01-22-2012, 12:33 AM

Great article on Ratliffe from ESPN.com

Ricardo Ratliffe's season for the ages
January, 20, 2012
JAN 20
2:59
PM ET

By Eamonn Brennan
It's easy to get lost in a discussion of Missouri's style. It's easy to lament this team's lack of size, to fret about its lack of depth.

Yours truly has done as much more than once this season, and with good reason: The Jan. 3 transfer of freshman Kadeem Green left this already height-challenged squad with just seven scholarship players, and just two taller than 6-foot-6. When Missouri went on the road to play Kansas State just four days later, the Wildcats' strength and length were too much. The game -- Mizzou's only loss of the season to date -- was never close. Sure, this team was good. Sure, they can score in bunches. Sure, their hyperquick four-guard style gives other teams problems, too. But the Tigers couldn't match up with size. This was an obvious knock. It was also true.

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Dak Dillon/US Presswire
The efficiency of post player Ricardo Ratliffe has made Missouri's lack of size less of a concern.
And yet, since then, Missouri has kept on winning. Even better, two of its three victories -- at Iowa State, versus Texas A&M -- have come against teams whose strengths decidedly lie in their interiors. The concern over Missouri's lack of interior players, over Frank Haith's conscious design to play a lights-out shooting guard (Kim English) alongside one big man (Ricardo Ratliffe) and three diminutive guards (Marcus Denmon, Michael Dixon, Phil Pressey, et al.) seems at least a little bit inflated. Clearly, Missouri can win with this style.

At the very least, this hand-wringing has distracted us from one of the more remarkable seasons we've seen from a big man in modern college hoops history. That big man is Ratliffe, and what he's doing in the middle of that Missouri attack deserves serious attention and acclaim. Why? Because if Ratliffe maintains his current pace, he'll not only smash Missouri's single-season field goal percentage record, he'll also become the most accurate single-season field goal shooter in the history of college basketball. From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:
Then again, Ratliffe has made 81 of his other 112 attempts, leaving him 111 of 144 overall and leading the nation in field goal percentage (.771). He also is on pace to shred the MU record of .676 set by Jeff Warren in 1990-91 and, in fact, on track to break the men's Division I record of .746 set by Oregon State's Steve Johnson in 1980-81.

"We're all surprised when he misses a shot," MU coach Frank Haith said, smiling.

Ratliffe's tempo-free numbers are every bit as impressive. Ratliffe ranks No. 1 in the country in effective field goal percentage (77.1 percent) and true shooting percentage (75.8 percent). The former factors in 3-point shooting, which Ratliffe never does; the latter accounts for free throw accuracy. What's more, Ratliffe's eFG% is nine points better than the second-best player in the country, Denver's Brett Olson, and the rest of the pack that crowds the top of the list. Ratliffe is way out in front.

How does he get his points? As Luke Winn pointed out yesterday, the Tigers, while still fast-ish, aren't nearly as breakneck as they were under former coach Mike Anderson. Haith has slowed them down. Ratliffe, then, isn't getting the lion's share of his buckets on fast break dunks set up by teammates. According to Synergy Scouting data, the Missouri big man has recorded just 23 fast-break possessions this season. He's scored 36 points in those situations, to the tune of an amazing 1.565 ppp, but the real work has come in the half court: 165 possessions, 212 points, 1.285 ppp and a ranking in the 98th percentile of every player in college hoops.

Ratliffe has been good in post-up situations, but that's not really his bread and butter. Per Synergy, post-ups account for just 39.2 percent of Ratliff's half-court offensive possessions. Instead, Ratliffe gets most of his looks -- 57.7 percent -- in non-post-up situations. These looks come in basically three ways: Pick and rolls, pure cuts to the rim and, perhaps most frequently, offensive rebounds.

This is an excellent way to go about scoring. It leads to inherent accuracy. Ratliffe doesn't ever need to do things he can't do, like spot-up or isolate his man, because he has a team of incredibly efficient shooters -- including one of the best in the country in English, whose nation-leading 51 percent 3-point percentage is worth of commendation, too -- surrounding him. He can merely play off his team's guards, who stretch defenses with their accuracy and quickness. He can cut to the rim in space. He can slide to the middle of the lane off a pick and roll, which opposing teams always have to hedge high to prevent an open 3. And with his high work rate, active feet and athleticism, Ratliffe can, when all else fails, crash the glass. He grabs 14 percent of his team's available misses, a figure that would no doubt be higher if Missouri, you know, missed every once in a while.

However you break it down, Ratliffe has been remarkable. In many ways, he has his guards to thank. But his own brand of post efficiency isn't just about Missouri's style, or his team's coterie of quick, accurate guards. It's also about maximizing opportunities. No player in the country in 2012 does that better than Ricardo Ratliffe.

Can he maintain this scorching pace? We'll see. Saturday's trip to Baylor is going to be a (cough) tall task, what with all those talented and very large men (Quincy Acy, Perry Jones III, and on down the line) patrolling the paint for the Bears. At times, Missouri will struggle against size. It's bound to happen.

But when you've got a big man having a historic season on the offensive end, converting touches into points in a fashion we rarely see, the concerns about your lack of size can be easily and deservingly brushed aside. As it stands, Missouri is the perfect team for Ratliffe. And Ratliffe is the perfect big man for Missouri.

What more could the Tigers want?

**KcMizzou** · 01-22-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Great article on Ratliffe from ESPN.com

Ricardo Ratliffe's season for the ages

Great read. Esp. since it was written before this Baylor game. Thanks!

**KcMizzou** · 01-22-2012, 12:44 AM

The MIZ-ZOU chant was pretty loud at Baylor. Anybody else notice that? Must have had a lot of fans there.

Also, now that we've won... I got a kick out of Mrs. Pressey covering her eyes when Flip was on the free throw line, and had missed the first shot.

Sure-Oz · 01-22-2012, 09:47 AM

Had a blast watching this game yesterday. I love watching this team play

redfan · 01-22-2012, 09:55 AM

Loves me some rebounding guards!!

KChiefs1 · 01-22-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Had a blast watching this game yesterday. I love watching this team play

Febuary 4th is going to be fun!

mnchiefsguy · 01-22-2012, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Febuary 4th is going to be fun!

Feb 4th is going to be fun, but Mizzou needs to focus on Okie State on Wed. One game at a time, no looking ahead.

Mosbonian · 01-22-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

Feb 4th is going to be fun, but Mizzou needs to focus on Okie State on Wed. One game at a time, no looking ahead.

That's what I like about Haith thus far this season....they take it one game at a time. They seem to be preparing for each game like they are facing #1 each night.

I like the "1-game win streak" mentality they have this year.

Sannyasi · 01-22-2012, 08:21 PM

Sorry if repost, but this bit of the KC Star article on Haith caught my eye:

You should hear the story about what happened after MU beat Illinois. Haith walked over to Bob Knight, who had broadcast the game on television, to introduce himself and say how much he admired the former coach.

Knight told him MU was the best-coached team he’d seen this season, and interrupted when Haith talked about having great players willing to work hard.

“Don’t give me that (stuff),” Knight said. “I’m a coach. I’m not the media. I know what a coach does. I watched your team. You coached your team.”

Haith then talked about his coaching mentors and his time as an assistant at Texas. Knight interrupted again.

“Rick Barnes isn’t an offensive coach, so don’t tell me that,” he said.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/19...#storylink=cpy

KChiefs1 · 01-22-2012, 08:42 PM

That's good stuff about Bobby Knight.

BourbonMan · 01-23-2012, 10:41 AM

Ratliffe named Big 12 player of the week

Read more here: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/n...#storylink=cpy

Molitoth · 01-23-2012, 10:46 AM

I like Ratliffe, but he's getting the dish for all the easy buckets from Flip.

Ratliffe is getting sucked way too hard at the moment, and Phil Pressey needs more love..... the dude is lights out.

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Mosbonian On Hiatus Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-1190300	I asked this earlier and no one answered...so I'll ask again. I saw Ratliffe had 27 points in the game....which speaks for itself. But was he that dominating in the game? Did he really hold his own against Baylor's front line?
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01-22-2012, 12:33 AM	#5254
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $22248	Great article on Ratliffe from ESPN.com Ricardo Ratliffe's season for the ages January, 20, 2012 JAN 20 2:59 PM ET By Eamonn Brennan It's easy to get lost in a discussion of Missouri's style. It's easy to lament this team's lack of size, to fret about its lack of depth. Yours truly has done as much more than once this season, and with good reason: The Jan. 3 transfer of freshman Kadeem Green left this already height-challenged squad with just seven scholarship players, and just two taller than 6-foot-6. When Missouri went on the road to play Kansas State just four days later, the Wildcats' strength and length were too much. The game -- Mizzou's only loss of the season to date -- was never close. Sure, this team was good. Sure, they can score in bunches. Sure, their hyperquick four-guard style gives other teams problems, too. But the Tigers couldn't match up with size. This was an obvious knock. It was also true. [+] Enlarge Dak Dillon/US Presswire The efficiency of post player Ricardo Ratliffe has made Missouri's lack of size less of a concern. And yet, since then, Missouri has kept on winning. Even better, two of its three victories -- at Iowa State, versus Texas A&M -- have come against teams whose strengths decidedly lie in their interiors. The concern over Missouri's lack of interior players, over Frank Haith's conscious design to play a lights-out shooting guard (Kim English) alongside one big man (Ricardo Ratliffe) and three diminutive guards (Marcus Denmon, Michael Dixon, Phil Pressey, et al.) seems at least a little bit inflated. Clearly, Missouri can win with this style. At the very least, this hand-wringing has distracted us from one of the more remarkable seasons we've seen from a big man in modern college hoops history. That big man is Ratliffe, and what he's doing in the middle of that Missouri attack deserves serious attention and acclaim. Why? Because if Ratliffe maintains his current pace, he'll not only smash Missouri's single-season field goal percentage record, he'll also become the most accurate single-season field goal shooter in the history of college basketball. From the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: Then again, Ratliffe has made 81 of his other 112 attempts, leaving him 111 of 144 overall and leading the nation in field goal percentage (.771). He also is on pace to shred the MU record of .676 set by Jeff Warren in 1990-91 and, in fact, on track to break the men's Division I record of .746 set by Oregon State's Steve Johnson in 1980-81. "We're all surprised when he misses a shot," MU coach Frank Haith said, smiling. Ratliffe's tempo-free numbers are every bit as impressive. Ratliffe ranks No. 1 in the country in effective field goal percentage (77.1 percent) and true shooting percentage (75.8 percent). The former factors in 3-point shooting, which Ratliffe never does; the latter accounts for free throw accuracy. What's more, Ratliffe's eFG% is nine points better than the second-best player in the country, Denver's Brett Olson, and the rest of the pack that crowds the top of the list. Ratliffe is way out in front. How does he get his points? As Luke Winn pointed out yesterday, the Tigers, while still fast-ish, aren't nearly as breakneck as they were under former coach Mike Anderson. Haith has slowed them down. Ratliffe, then, isn't getting the lion's share of his buckets on fast break dunks set up by teammates. According to Synergy Scouting data, the Missouri big man has recorded just 23 fast-break possessions this season. He's scored 36 points in those situations, to the tune of an amazing 1.565 ppp, but the real work has come in the half court: 165 possessions, 212 points, 1.285 ppp and a ranking in the 98th percentile of every player in college hoops. Ratliffe has been good in post-up situations, but that's not really his bread and butter. Per Synergy, post-ups account for just 39.2 percent of Ratliff's half-court offensive possessions. Instead, Ratliffe gets most of his looks -- 57.7 percent -- in non-post-up situations. These looks come in basically three ways: Pick and rolls, pure cuts to the rim and, perhaps most frequently, offensive rebounds. This is an excellent way to go about scoring. It leads to inherent accuracy. Ratliffe doesn't ever need to do things he can't do, like spot-up or isolate his man, because he has a team of incredibly efficient shooters -- including one of the best in the country in English, whose nation-leading 51 percent 3-point percentage is worth of commendation, too -- surrounding him. He can merely play off his team's guards, who stretch defenses with their accuracy and quickness. He can cut to the rim in space. He can slide to the middle of the lane off a pick and roll, which opposing teams always have to hedge high to prevent an open 3. And with his high work rate, active feet and athleticism, Ratliffe can, when all else fails, crash the glass. He grabs 14 percent of his team's available misses, a figure that would no doubt be higher if Missouri, you know, missed every once in a while. However you break it down, Ratliffe has been remarkable. In many ways, he has his guards to thank. But his own brand of post efficiency isn't just about Missouri's style, or his team's coterie of quick, accurate guards. It's also about maximizing opportunities. No player in the country in 2012 does that better than Ricardo Ratliffe. Can he maintain this scorching pace? We'll see. Saturday's trip to Baylor is going to be a (cough) tall task, what with all those talented and very large men (Quincy Acy, Perry Jones III, and on down the line) patrolling the paint for the Bears. At times, Missouri will struggle against size. It's bound to happen. But when you've got a big man having a historic season on the offensive end, converting touches into points in a fashion we rarely see, the concerns about your lack of size can be easily and deservingly brushed aside. As it stands, Missouri is the perfect team for Ratliffe. And Ratliffe is the perfect big man for Missouri. What more could the Tigers want? __________________ Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Following the historical accounts and the genealogy from that point on, the age of the Earth is approximately 6000-7000 years old. The Big Bullshit Theory is a lie. It and the evolution theory go against real science. Satan has used our public school system to brainwash everyone into believing these lies. Be not decieved.
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Sannyasi Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Casino cash: $9963714	Sorry if repost, but this bit of the KC Star article on Haith caught my eye: You should hear the story about what happened after MU beat Illinois. Haith walked over to Bob Knight, who had broadcast the game on television, to introduce himself and say how much he admired the former coach. Knight told him MU was the best-coached team he’d seen this season, and interrupted when Haith talked about having great players willing to work hard. “Don’t give me that (stuff),” Knight said. “I’m a coach. I’m not the media. I know what a coach does. I watched your team. You coached your team.” Haith then talked about his coaching mentors and his time as an assistant at Texas. Knight interrupted again. “Rick Barnes isn’t an offensive coach, so don’t tell me that,” he said. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/01/19...#storylink=cpy
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