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duncan_idaho · 09:30 AM

With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository.

To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985.

25-man RosterAvailable HERE

AL Central Standings:

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Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects

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**DeezNutz** · 05-29-2014, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Aoki is Dyson, except he speaks Japanese instead of Mississippi. You can knock the bat out of either guy's hand.

That's what Far East do.

WhawhaWhat · 05-29-2014, 01:33 PM

The Royals confirmed staffing changes. Sveum will coach the hitters. Jirschele is the new 3B coach. And Grifol is the catching instructor.
— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) May 29, 2014

KCUnited · 05-29-2014, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

The Royals confirmed staffing changes. Sveum will coach the hitters. Jirschele is the new 3B coach. And Grifol is the catching instructor.
— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) May 29, 2014

They just rotated urinal cakes on the Titanic.

1moreTRich · 05-29-2014, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Aoki is Dyson, except he speaks Japanese instead of Mississippi. You can knock the bat out of either guy's hand.

Now he is, no doubt. When we got him, I was assured that you would damn near never see the guy strike out.

**DeezNutz** · 05-29-2014, 01:38 PM

A "catching instructor."

. Is he allowed to travel with the team?

Gutless mother****ing DM.

**gblowfish** · 05-29-2014, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

The Royals confirmed staffing changes. Sveum will coach the hitters. Jirschele is the new 3B coach. And Grifol is the catching instructor.
— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) May 29, 2014

That'll fix EVERYTHING!!!

**RockChalk** · 05-29-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

The Royals confirmed staffing changes. Sveum will coach the hitters. Jirschele is the new 3B coach. And Grifol is the catching instructor.
— Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) May 29, 2014

On the phone with the Royals now, ordering playoff tickets and a Brett Hayes jersey

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-29-2014, 02:09 PM

As an outsider it's hard for me to comment on how much of the issues with your prospects are related to a culture of coddling. I can say this: in the last ten years the Cardinals' three most hyped prospects were Colby Rasmus, Shelby Miller, and Oscar Taveras. Rasmus and Miller both had severe entitlement, maturity, and coachability issues, and Taveras has had maturity issues.

I wonder if a lot of it stems from the nature of the prospects themselves. A prodigy that comes along with the right mindset, like a Michael Wacha and Wil Myers (not to twist the knife), is pretty rare.

That said, I do wonder about the development system the Royals have in place.

okcchief · 05-29-2014, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Going to have to sacrifice Ned just to shake things up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

We were good the year of the strike and I remember George's 3000 hit. The rest not so good.

I forgot about the strike year. The Royals have a chance? Cancel the season!

ChiefsCountry · 05-29-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief

I forgot about the strike year. The Royals have a chance? Cancel the season!

Strike Year we were starting to gel when the strike hit. Appier, Cone, Gubs, and Flash Gordon would have been a nasty pitching rotation going into the playoffs.

CaliforniaChief · 05-29-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

They just rotated urinal cakes on the Titanic.

That's so true. Changing bandaids on a bleeding hemophiliac. That will fix it.

duncan_idaho · 05-29-2014, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

As an outsider it's hard for me to comment on how much of the issues with your prospects are related to a culture of coddling. I can say this: in the last ten years the Cardinals' three most hyped prospects were Colby Rasmus, Shelby Miller, and Oscar Taveras. Rasmus and Miller both had severe entitlement, maturity, and coachability issues, and Taveras has had maturity issues.

I wonder if a lot of it stems from the nature of the prospects themselves. A prodigy that comes along with the right mindset, like a Michael Wacha and Wil Myers (not to twist the knife), is pretty rare.

That said, I do wonder about the development system the Royals have in place.

It's not just the top prospects with that issue, though. Scrubs like Jarrod Dyson have it, too, apparently.

duncan_idaho · 05-29-2014, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Strike Year we were starting to gel when the strike hit. Appier, Cone, Gubs, and Flash Gordon would have been a nasty pitching rotation going into the playoffs.

Don't forget Hipolito Pichardo...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-29-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It's not just the top prospects with that issue, though. Scrubs like Jarrod Dyson have it, too, apparently.

Is that systemic, or do you just have a Nyger Morgan-type asshole on your team along with a bunched of coddled primadonnas?

ChiefsCountry · 05-29-2014, 02:22 PM

They got pissy when they didn't get a perk that you would think a MLB player would normally get.

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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1460308	2014 Royals Repository With my 6,000th post on ChiefsPlanet (it only took me 12 years to get here), I bring you: The 2014 Kansas City Royals Repository. To be discussed here: All things Royals, as they attempt to post another winning season and make it back to the playoffs for the first time since 1985. 25-man RosterAvailable HERE AL Central Standings: Link Duncan's Top 20 Royals Prospects Spoiler! 1) 3B Hunter Dozier ETA: 2015 Dozier started slowly at A+ Wilmington but caught fire in May and June, earning a mid-season promotion to AA Northwest Arkansas. Big, strong kid with good plate discipline skills and solid power who projects to be an above-average glove at 3B with solid power. 2) SS Raul (Adalberto) Mondesi ETA: 2017 Mondesis is the opposite of Dozier…. Started red-hot at Wilmington before back spasms derailed him for a few weeks and hasn’t gotten it going since coming back. Scouting reports have been great – defense and speed both improved over the offseason. Still a chance to be an elite SS, with 40 SB speed, plus glove, .300 average and some pop. 3) LHP Sean Manaea \| ETA: 2015 Scouting reports outperform the stat line so far. Missing a ton of bats at A+ but not preventing runs like you’d expect to see. Needs to work deeper into games (gradually working about an inning deeper/month so far this year) and improve control. Walks are biggest concern right now, but could be elevated due to work on extra off-speed offerings. Still has No. 2 starter potential, could be higher if the great control he exhibited before his hip surgery eventually comes back. 4) RHP Kyle Zimmer\| ETA: 2015 Should be NO. 1 on the list and is probably the Royals most VALUABLE current prospect, but he hasn’t thrown a ball in 4-5 weeks and had only been throwing for 2-3 weeks when he was shut down then. 5) LHP Brandon Finnegan\| ETA: 2015 Top 2014 draft choice is an undersized lefty who will start at A+ Wilmington after anchoring CWS run for TCU. Good fastball, better slider, change that needs work to stick as a starter, but if he sticks, No. 2/No. 3 starter upside. Likely a top 10 or even top 5 pick if he doesn’t miss 1 start in the middle of the college season as a precautionary move. 6) RHP Miguel Almonte\| ETA: 2016 Have heard some say Almonte is more advanced as a pitcher at A+ than Yordano Ventura was (comparison because both were cheap signs out of Latin America). Really advanced changeup and a curve that is working out well (where the ‘more advanced’ comment comes from). Fastball velo is good but not great – 92-94. Like Manaea, working on his second-best offspeed pitch and leaning less on his bread-and butter (changeup), which has hurt his numbers a bit. 7) RHP Christian Binford 2017 Reverse case of “don’t just scout stat lines.” Based on his stats at A+, you’d think he was an elite prospect, but there are questions about Binford’s stuff playing up at higher levels. Tall righty with great command of fastball, slider and a good and still developing changeup. None of those pitches profiles as better than average, though, limiting his likely upside to back-end rotation guy. 8) SS Orlando Calixte\| ETA: 2016 I still like him more than many. Good combination of SS/MI skills and power. Started hot at NWA but in a slump at moment. 9)LHP Foster Griffin \| ETA: 2019 Tall, projectable lefty taken in 2014 draft. Viewed as a great value in the sandwich round and probably would have been KC’s pick at No. 17 if Finnegan hadn’t fallen. High school arm who is going to take a while to develop. 10) RF Jorge Bonifacio\| ETA: 2016 Hasn’t hit as well as expected in his second go-round at AA NWA. Power still sapped, and average skills have dipped. Once looked like he might be an option in RF at some point in 2015, now looks like 2016 is optimistic. Still young for his level. 11) 3B/2B Cheslor Cuthbert\| ETA: 2016 Cuthbert has had better luck at NWA than Boni and is also extremely young for level. HE’s been moved to 2B since Dozier was promoted, which could put a new spin on Cuthbert’s prospects. If he sticks at 2B, bat plays up much better. Good OBP/plate discipline and solid power, but needs to continue improving contact skills 12) C Chase Vallot\| ETA: 2020 Young (just 17) C with tremendous power. One of the top prep bats and a great value for KC where it got him. If he sticks at C, expect him to move slowly, but the bat may force the issue (or force him to another position). 13) C Zane Evans\| ETA: 2017 GA Tech product has handled Wilmington better than most RH bats and probably is in line for a promotion to NWA sometime soon. Decent pop, decent skills behind the plate. Could be a nice reserve catcher. 14) RHP Scott Blewett\| ETA: 2020 Tall, projectable righty with a fresh arm but some injury concerns on his shoulder that slipped him out of Round 1 of MLB draft. Big time potential. 15) CF Bubba Starling \| ETA: Bubba Starling has great tools. Bubba Starling (still) can’t hit. That’s all I have to say about that. 16) 1B Samir Duenez\| ETA: I still like him, even though the attempt to run him through full season ball at 17 did not go well. 17)LF/RF Elier Hernandez\| ETA: Hernandez still pops up in scouting reports but still is very raw and toolsy. 18) RHP Pedro Fernandez\| ETA: Pop-up player on the same track as Ventura and Almonte. Similar signing, similar profile. One to watch over next few years. 19) SS Marten Gasparini\| ETA: Royals’ most expensive international signing likely moves to CF eventually, but his speed and athleticism are intriguing abilities. Early reports from complex ball are very positive on him. 20) RHP Niklas Stephenson\| ETA: Interesting pop-up candidate who found 10 more MPH on his fastball by using a weighted ball during workouts over the winter. Now sits mid-90s with fastball and is dominating at rookie ball (after having an ERA over 8 there a year ago). Likely promoted to a higher challenge soon. Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-01-2014 at 09:30 AM..
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05-29-2014, 01:33 PM	#5252
WhawhaWhat MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $1281116	The Royals confirmed staffing changes. Sveum will coach the hitters. Jirschele is the new 3B coach. And Grifol is the catching instructor. — Andy McCullough (@McCulloughStar) May 29, 2014
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7959572	As an outsider it's hard for me to comment on how much of the issues with your prospects are related to a culture of coddling. I can say this: in the last ten years the Cardinals' three most hyped prospects were Colby Rasmus, Shelby Miller, and Oscar Taveras. Rasmus and Miller both had severe entitlement, maturity, and coachability issues, and Taveras has had maturity issues. I wonder if a lot of it stems from the nature of the prospects themselves. A prodigy that comes along with the right mindset, like a Michael Wacha and Wil Myers (not to twist the knife), is pretty rare. That said, I do wonder about the development system the Royals have in place. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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