Chiefs Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs - Page 36

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 01:33 AM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html

Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor.

Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan.

Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick).

Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty.

Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup.

You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots.

Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed.

Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses.

When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach.

It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator.

In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game.

The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions.

I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.)

Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator.

Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel.

Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010.

If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL.

Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff.

Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011.

My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense.

Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down.

Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia.

Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.

Hammock Parties · 01-14-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

They had Chambers for half the year. Bowe, Chambers, Charles and Cassel still amounted to nothing.

I'm not sure what you mean by nothing.

Cassel's passing production increased by 50 YPG with Chambers on the team. And they averaged 413 YPG offensively over the last month.

Micjones · 01-14-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

They had Chambers for half the year. Bowe, Chambers, Charles and Cassel still amounted to nothing.

Bowe and Chambers combined went for something like 1200 yards.
And they only played in a handful of games together.

Give me the two over the course of a whole season and you've got something.

BigChiefFan · 01-14-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I'm not sure what you mean by nothing.

Cassel's passing production increased by 50 YPG with Chambers on the team. And they averaged 413 YPG offensively over the last month.

I think that shows progress. Good post, man.

**SAUTO** · 01-14-2010, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

After reading the stories about Pioli freezing out the old scouts, and relying solely on a guy that had been fired by the Pats, I'd be willing to say he never bothered scouting Sanchez to begin with.

He had his man picked from the outset.

The guy needed the entire year to evaluate the roster according to some here, yet he traded for a QB a month after being hired.

all assumption in your post here, let me try.....

brady was hurt, halfway through the season pioli didnt know he was leaving and sanchez wasnt predicted to be a top ten pick so yeah they COULD have scouted him. and i would just about guarantee they at the very LEAST scouted the guy
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Mecca · 01-14-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Perhaps, who knows. Certainly you or I don't know that.

With Cassel, if he didn't make the move when he did, he would have ended up in Denver or somewhere else. I get that he made them move quickly, but he kind of had to if he didn't like Sanchez at 3, and wanted to make a move at QB.

Like I said, if Cassel doesn't have a good year in '10, then we should be in a position to take a guy like Gabbert, Barkley, or Locker, assuming they come out. And, IMO, those guys all have more upside than Sanchez, and will most likely have less question marks due to more playing time and game film to gauge them on.

Just for the record Matt Barkley won't be eligible for the draft until 2012.

**DeezNutz** · 01-14-2010, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Pioli is going to have to have a great draft in '10 for me to start giving him the benefit of the doubt in this area.

It's hard for me to reconcile just how badly he drafted in '09.

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Or what? You going to walk into Clarks office and throw a temper tantrum?

I'd say I answered the "or what" pretty clearly. FFS.

Sweet Dick Willy · 01-15-2010, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Your opinions might have some credibility if you ever, just once, showed pleasure with ANYTHING the Chiefs have ever done. You are like a cartoon. Bitch. Bitch. Bitch. Big surprise. Mecca doesn't like the hires. Mecca doesn't like the draft pick. Mecca doesn't like the play call. Its a tired act.
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Just because you believe or say it's an act doesn't make it so.

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Guys, we should be questioning EVERYTHING this regime does after the shit that happened last year.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

Cassel.....................

........................63 million

OMG this ****ing thread.

"I couldn't make it through the entire article".

Yeah, well I couldn't make it through this entire ****ing thread. JFC, it's like a Boxer Rebellion for True Fans waged with spit-balls and blindfolds up this mother****er.

I believe I've actually lost life-essence trying to read this whole thread.

Titty Meat · 01-15-2010, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy

Just because you believe or say it's an act doesn't make it so.

OMG this ****ing thread.

"I couldn't make it through the entire article".

Yeah, well I couldn't make it through this entire ****ing thread. JFC, it's like a Boxer Rebellion for True Fans waged with spit-balls and blindfolds up this mother****er.

The ticket salesperson e-mailed me just because the Chiefs hired Crennel and tried to say thats a reason to get season tickets so I was sure to tell him I got my game awwwwwn.

Sweet Dick Willy · 01-15-2010, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

The ticket salesperson e-mailed me just because the Chiefs hired Crennel and tried to say thats a reason to get season tickets so I was sure to tell him I got my game awwwwwn.

I believe you.

I wonder if there will ever come a day when they email you with some enticement along the lines of say, "players X, X, and X are poised to have dominating seasons on the way to the playoff's this year"?

But in the interim, "Hey Dumbass! We just hired some more cronies of the boss, we don't know if they or the team will be worth two ****s in 2010, but Billay; open your wallet today"!

Titty Meat · 01-15-2010, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy

I believe you.

I wonder if there will ever come a day when they email you with some enticement along the lines of say, "players X, X, and X are poised to have dominating seasons on the way to the playoff's this year"?

But the interim, "Hey Dumbass! We just hired some more cronies of the boss, we don't know if they or the team will be worth two ****s in 2010, but Billay; open your wallet today"!

This team ****ing sucks they should just play a commercial of a hot cheerleader and play "po po poka face"

Sweet Dick Willy · 01-15-2010, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

This team ****ing sucks they should just play a commercial of a hot cheerleader and play "po po poka face"

Or have Krumrie singing the Meow Mix commercial at the top of his lungs!

Titty Meat · 01-15-2010, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willy

Or have Krumrie singing the Meow Mix commercial at the top of his lungs!

He's been released way to rub it in!

Sweet Dick Willy · 01-15-2010, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

He's been released way to rub it in!

Sounds to me like a man in need of work; Meow Mix at the 50.

Just Passin' By · 01-15-2010, 04:30 AM

Two excellent hires for the Chiefs. Now they need to continue with the roster overhaul. That should be very interesting to watch, especially if there is no CBA worked out and this remains an uncapped season.

JD10367 · 01-15-2010, 07:16 AM

I think it would be really funny if Pioli, Haley, Weis, Crennel, and Cassel all contributed to the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl next year.

#1: it would lead to a whole lot of funny comments about Belichick.

#2: you guys would all have to find something new to complain about. Oh, wait, never mind, I'm sure some of you would STILL complain, saying, "Yeah, but we had to get Patsified to win a Super Bowl, waaah, it's not a REAL Super Bowl win, we need to fire everyone here and hire new people who didn't work in New England!"

There's a certain personality type that's never happy. Some of you seem to fit that bill. If a hot Playboy model knocked on your door and offered to bang you, you'd complain that she didn't bring a friend along.

01-14-2010, 01:33 AM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $970478	Whitlock LOLs at the Patsification of the Chiefs http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1682402.html Wake me when the Chiefs sign Tom Brady, the one with two healthy knees and fearless pocket demeanor. Until then, I’ll take a wait-and-see approach with Scott Pioli’s New England Relocation Plan. Right now, this smells like a Jackson Five reunion tour without Michael (Brady) or Janet (Bill Belichick). Romeo “Tito” Crennel, the defensive coordinator, joins Pioli, Charlie Weis, Matt Cassel, Mike Vrabel and ex-Pats to be named later in what appears to be a lame attempt at recreating the New England Dynasty. Let me apologize for being unimpressed with this lineup. You’re tired of reading it, and I’m tired of writing it. Unfortunately, I’m paid to tell you what I really think. Romeo Crennel sounds great on paper. He won three Super Bowls while holding the title of “defensive coordinator” for Belichick’s Patriots. Tito sold a bunch of records plucking a guitar and singing backup for Michael Jackson. Without The Gloved One, we never heard of Tito again until Michael passed. Romeo flamed out in Cleveland as a head coach. Of all the Belichick assistants during the Super Bowl years, Crennel was the one with the least amount of responsibility on his plate. Belichick designed the defenses. When Crennel got the Cleveland job, I asked a longtime Patriots defender what he thought of the hire, and the player told me flat out that he never envisioned Romeo as a head coach. It’s just one player, one opinion. And not being head-coach material doesn’t disqualify someone from being a top-flight coordinator. In fact, I touched base with the player again on Wednesday, and he assured me that Crennel installed the defensive game plan throughout the week without interference from Belichick and that Crennel called the game. The player also assured me that Belichick had his fingerprints on everything that transpired with the team — special teams, offense, defense and front-office decisions. I’m just not sold on Crennel. As a coordinator, Crennel has far more to prove than Charlie Weis. No one I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to create innovative game plans. (Everyone I’ve talked to doubts Weis’ ability to control his ego.) Crennel worked for Belichick, who specializes in defense. Bill Parcells never won a Super Bowl without Belichick working as his defensive coordinator. Hey, maybe one day we will be saying the same thing about Belichick and Crennel. Today, all I’m sure of is that Crennel’s hiring increases the likelihood that Todd Haley is in a make-or-break season in 2010. If things go poorly next season, don’t look for Pioli, Weis and Crennel to take the blame. They have nine Super Bowl rings among them. In their mind, they know exactly what it takes to win at the highest level in the NFL. Haley either has no political savvy, no interest in playing the kind of politics that enhances a coach’s longevity or zero leverage when putting together a coaching staff. Given the previous working relationship of Pioli, Weis and Crennel — and Weis’ oversized ego — it would be a seamless transition for Pioli to install Weis as head coach midway through the 2010 season or at the start of 2011. My gut says Haley’s ego and gambling nature make him unaware of the ramifications of his decisions. Firing Chan Gailey was a colossal error. With the offensive personnel provided to him by Pioli, Haley should’ve held on to Gailey for a season. There was no reason for the head coach to attach his reputation and credibility to a receiver-less offense. Good coaches are paranoid. They perceive every move by ownership/management as a potential threat to their power. Paranoia is what drives a good coach to be great. Paranoia is what makes a coach sleep at his office and punt on fourth down. Look at Belichick. He’s been spoiled by success. That’s why he went for it on fourth and 2 against the Colts. He’s losing his paranoia. Haley’s background is extremely unusual for an NFL head coach. Golfers focus on a single obstacle, the course. A football coach worries about a million things, including what his assistants may or may not be plotting.
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JD10367 Cheaterlover* Join Date: May 2009 Location: RI Casino cash: $10010716	I think it would be really funny if Pioli, Haley, Weis, Crennel, and Cassel all contributed to the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl next year. #1: it would lead to a whole lot of funny comments about Belichick. #2: you guys would all have to find something new to complain about. Oh, wait, never mind, I'm sure some of you would STILL complain, saying, "Yeah, but we had to get Patsified to win a Super Bowl, waaah, it's not a REAL Super Bowl win, we need to fire everyone here and hire new people who didn't work in New England!" There's a certain personality type that's never happy. Some of you seem to fit that bill. If a hot Playboy model knocked on your door and offered to bang you, you'd complain that she didn't bring a friend along.
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