***Mizzou @ Texas A&M***

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Past history may not be indicative of future results.

I wasn't trying to be Debbie Downer, I was looking up the last time we beat them. I forgot about 1998, the time before that, I was in diapers, and the time before that, I was -1 years old.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I wasn't trying to be Debbie Downer, I was looking up the last time we beat them. I forgot about 1998, the time before that, I was in diapers, and the time before that, I was -1 years old.

I can't imagine our gimmicky spread offense will be effective against OU. Never has been in the past.

I think the defense will keep us in it until the end, and then they'll run out of gas and we'll collapse in the 4th quarter.

Hope I'm wrong.

[Molitoth]

Good Job MU, I will be rooting for you since my Huskers decided to trash another year.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Good Job MU, I will be rooting for you since my Huskers decided to trash another year.

You can't be serious.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

You can't be serious.

eh? why?

I would much rather root for MU to stay undefeated and challenge for a national title game than my Huskers winning a meaningless division title.

[duncan_idaho]

My favorite things:

1) The gameplan. Missouri diced up aTm on both sides of the ball. Gabbert really elevated his play and made some outstanding throws. If thats the QB we see the rest of the year, the sky is the limit for this team.

2) The defensive line. Yes, aTm has a weak OL. But Missouri's defense - and especially the DL - played outstanding football, and it started up front. Good D vs. the run, and great pressure.

3) That Missouri dominated and won the game straight up. All week, most of the pundits were talking about Missouri having to force a lot of turnovers to have a chance against aTm and keep up in a shootout. Instead, Missouri dominated wire-to-wire, and showed it clearly was a better team in all facets.

Forgot to mention: GREAT play from the secondary, especially Rutland and Kip Edwards. This D, I think, is just going to get better as the season goes along (barring further injuries). It all starts up front, though. I love the way the D has stepped up with Aldon Smith out... if Madison, J. Smith, etc keep up this level of play when Aldon comes back, watch out....

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

My favorite things:

1) The gameplan. Missouri diced up aTm on both sides of the ball. Gabbert really elevated his play and made some outstanding throws. If thats the QB we see the rest of the year, the sky is the limit for this team.

2) The defensive line. Yes, aTm has a weak OL. But Missouri's defense - and especially the DL - played outstanding football, and it started up front. Good D vs. the run, and great pressure.

3) That Missouri dominated and won the game straight up. All week, most of the pundits were talking about Missouri having to force a lot of turnovers to have a chance against aTm and keep up in a shootout. Instead, Missouri dominated wire-to-wire, and showed it clearly was a better team in all facets.

Forgot to mention: GREAT play from the secondary, especially Rutland and Kip Edwards. This D, I think, is just going to get better as the season goes along (barring further injuries). It all starts up front, though. I love the way the D has stepped up with Aldon Smith out... if Madison, J. Smith, etc keep up this level of play when Aldon comes back, watch out....

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I hate Pinkel's offensive scheme.

[KCinNY]

Originally Posted by ROR

I hate Pinkel's offensive scheme.

Most Mizzou fans with at least a room temperature IQ do also.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by KCinNY

Most Mizzou fans with at least a room temperature IQ do also.

Most Mizzou fans hate the offensive system that has consistently given Missouri its best offensive teams in the past 40 years?

I know that some people hate the spread irrationally, but it's a big part of Pinkel's success at Mizzou. It's the reason Missouri continues to attract great quarterbacks (Next one in line, IMO: 2012 kid Gunner Kiel, who probably is the guy that replaces Franklin as the starter) and helped attract the great WR class this past recruiting cycle.

It gives Missouri the best shot to be a consistent winner in the new conference, that's for sure. Going to a pro style system just isn't going to work that often for a school like Missouri (too reliant on a great QB/great OL).

I WOULD like to see an ace set incorporated (with a TE in the slot and a blocking TE attached to the line on the opposite side), but the spread is Missouri's bread and butter.

The Tigers are damn lucky to have had a "win" hire like Pinkel. Let's just hope they are similarly successful when it comes time to hire his replacement...

[KCinNY]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Most Mizzou fans hate the offensive system that has consistently given Missouri its best offensive teams in the past 40 years?

The spread will get you 8-4 or 7-5 every year and that coveted berth in the Poulan Weed Eater Bowl.

Problem is that Pinkel is too stubborn to implement some conventional sets into his gimicky spread playbook.

When you see Mizzou lining up in a 5 wide shotgun on 4th and goal from inside the one...you have to know that it's insane.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by KCinNY

The spread will get you 8-4 or 7-5 every year and that coveted berth in the Poulan Weed Eater Bowl.

Problem is that Pinkel is too stubborn to implement some conventional sets into his gimicky spread playbook.

When you see Mizzou lining up in a 5 wide shotgun on 4th and goal from inside the one...you have to know that it's insane.

The spread is only good for 8-4/7-5, huh?

Or 12 wins and a half away from playing for a national title?

Or 30 wins over a three-year period? Or the best five-year period in school history?

The spread has taken Missouri to the point where 8-4 is the minimal expectation. It certainly looks like Pinkel has Mizzou poised for more than 8-4/7-5 this season as well, with 10 wins - and possibly more - pretty easily within sight.

And Missouri doesn't always line up in five wide in short-yardage situations, especially inside the goal line. Today, for example, on the fumbled snap.

Like I said, I'd like to see them be a little more multiple. They did use ace-back sets a little last year and have used Gabbert in some sneak situations. But the spread offense has brought Missouri a greater run of offensive success than the school ever endured under a more traditional or power-oriented scheme.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by KCinNY

The spread will get you 8-4 or 7-5 every year and that coveted berth in the Poulan Weed Eater Bowl.

Problem is that Pinkel is too stubborn to implement some conventional sets into his gimicky spread playbook.

When you see Mizzou lining up in a 5 wide shotgun on 4th and goal from inside the one...you have to know that it's insane.

Would you prefer us take a bunch of 3 star athletes and line up in the pro-set against teams that are physically superior to us across the board?

Or would you like to go into the homes of skill position recruits in Texas and tell them "yeah, we do the same thing everyone else in the country does, but we do it in a program with 1/2 the financial backing of the major national powerhouses"?

Yeah, it'd be great to be able to line up 5 guys that weigh 325 lbs and run like gazelles. It'd be fantastic to just blow teams off the ball and impose our will on them.

But just exactly how do you go about doing that? This isn't Texas. It isn't Alabama and it isn't Oklahoma. Hell, it isn't even Nebraska. We're the University of Missouri. Until we're considered among the national elite, we have to do things differently than they do to win.

If that means a non-traditional offense, so be it. That offense attracts scores of athletes to the school that wouldn't have given us a second thought without it. That offense is why we will have no worse than a four-star quarterback for the duration of Pinkel's tenure. This offense allows us to take two-star WRs and make them some of the best TEs in the country.

Pinkel's offense is our best chance to win with the tools we have. I don't believe Yost runs it efficiently (Christensen did), but that's an execution issue more than a philosophical flaw.

Ask Texas Tech how much they enjoy that conventional offense that Tuberville brought with him. Tech has many of the same disadvantages we have. It's in a very similar situation to MU. When Leach was there, they used that offense to be greater than the sum of their parts. Now that Tuberville is there, they're an also-ran.

While I disagree with how Yost uses it - the spread offense is the right fit for this program at this time.

[HolyHandgernade]

Congratulations Tigers. I know its almost impossible to throw well wishes your way, but I would much rather see a Big XII team win our conference than a Big 10 one. Since we're oviously not going to be much of a speed bump this year, hope you guys send the Huskers a nice "going away" gift when you play them.

[KcMizzou]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Congratulations Tigers. I know its almost impossible to throw well wishes your way, but I would much rather see a Big XII team win our conference than a Big 10 one. Since we're oviously not going to be much of a speed bump this year, hope you guys send the Huskers a nice "going away" gift when you play them.

Appreciated.