Chiefs Chiefs trade 34th pick for Cassel and Vrabel - Page 38

**chiefforlife** · 01:21 PM

Chiefs just got Cassel, ON NFLN!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/02...with_patriots/

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The Kansas City Chiefs announced on Saturday that the club has acquired QB Matt Cassel and LB Mike Vrabel from New England in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft. The agreement is contingent on both players reporting and passing their physicals.

“I have a long history with both players,” said Kansas City Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. “Mike and Matt are men that I respect both personally and professionally. I look forward to having them as new members of the Chiefs family.”

HC_Chief · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

Do you know something about a WR move?

Uhh no. No more than anyone else, let's put it that way.

I just see a need, and I'm sure Pioli & Haley see it as well. We have Bowe, Gonzalez, & a platoon of bodies. We need another wideout to run the scheme effectively.

Be that Boldin, Housh, Crabtree, Maclin, or whomever, the need remains. Seeing Pioli in action assures me that it will be addressed!

FTR, I hope we get a TE to replace Gonzo in the draft. There are several available this year. I'd be stoked if we got Coffman or Ingram in the 3rd round.

milkman · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

So we could draft the likes of Kyle Boller?

So we would have someone who isn't afraid to draft a QB, and then draft another if he ****ed the first time.

htismaqe · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

But is our o-line or receivers as good as the Pats?

Two words.

Tony.

Gonzales.

wild1 · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

You're ignoring the fact we still have the #3.

I'd rather have Cassel, Vrabel, and the #3 pick over Sanchez and Merideth.

well said!

chiefzilla1501 · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

But is our o-line or receivers as good as the Pats?

No. But keep in mind that Cassel's o-line was banged up a lot this year. It wasn't nearly as good this year as it was last year.

**Rausch** · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3

I would LOVE this. Move back and pick up another second, and a first or second next year and get a weapon at WR or a LB further back in the first.

Yup.

I wanted to trade down before this but now even more. Move down to 10-18 range, grab a 2nd rounder back plus picks (someone has the value chart I'm sure,) and take a good DE/OLB edge rusher for our 3-4 in the second.

Hell, I wouldn't mind grabbing another HB in the 2nd/3rd either...

tboss27 · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

Unbelievable that Pioli pulled this off. Now we don't waste time having to develop a young QB, the rebuilding process is about done on the offensive side of the ball. I bet LJ screws his head on and stops running like a little girl now that we have a legitimate QB who can play in a pro style offense. No more having to watch draw plays from the shotgun as our signature running style like last year. We draft Curry if he's there, if he's not I wouldn't mind Crabtree. Bowe, Crabtree, Gonzo would be a pretty dang good trio of weapons.

htismaqe · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

What picks do we have left....I thought we drafted at #35 seeing as we are at #3?

When draft order is determined by tie-breaker, they rotate every other round.

Coogs · 02-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

What picks do we have left....I thought we drafted at #35 seeing as we are at #3?

We flip-flop with the Rams every round since we finished with the same record. They pick ahead of us in the odd rounds, we pick ahead of them in the even rounds.

nychief · 02-28-2009, 01:46 PM

I would not fret on the number of picks we have.... I think SP will have added quite a few picks from unloading the old dicks.

milkman · 02-28-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

What picks do we have left....I thought we drafted at #35 seeing as we are at #3?

The Chiefs and Rams flip flop in each round.

**luv** · 02-28-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Two words.

Tony.

Gonzales.

Agreed, but the Pats had Welker and Moss.

Do we have faith in Bowe?

ChiefsCountry · 02-28-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's what I think too. He knows value.

And if we somehow get Cassel and Vrabel and end up with, say the #15 and #40 picks in the draft, Pioli might as well be annointed because he's a goddamn genious (CP spelling).

If we are trading down that low we are getting a future #1 in return as well.

rad · 02-28-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

When draft order is determined by tie-breaker, they rotate every other round.

Oh, that's right....thx.

Valiant · 02-28-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He'll have Tony Gonzales here. The Patriots don't have anything close to that kind of a safety valve.

IF we can shore up the right side of the line, there's no reason to think any decent QB, Cassel included, couldn't succeed here. Hell, Tyler Thigpen put up respectable numbers.

Yeah the only thing that makes me happy is the Patriots fans think they did not get enough in return for losing both players for just a second.. Of course I think most of them or idiots so I have no idea..

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