Do U know BTK? - Page 4

Nubian Nut · 11-30-2004, 05:58 PM

BTK describes his background
Since March 2004, BTK has sent numerous communications to the media and the police. In
these letters, he has provided certain background information about himself, which he claims is
accurate.
Based upon a review of that information, the following facts about BTK are being made available
to the public in the hopes of identifying BTK:
• He claims he was born in 1939, which would make his current age 64 or 65.
• His father died in World War II, and his mother raised him.
• His mother was forced to work, so his grandparents cared for him.
• His mother worked during the day near the railroad.
• He had a cousin named Susan, who moved to Missouri.
• His family moved a lot, but always lived near a railroad.
• His grandfather played the fiddle and died of a lung disease.
• His mother started dating a railroad detective when BTK was around 11 years old. This
relationship would have occurred during the years 1950-1955.
• In the early 1950s he built and operated a ham radio.
• He has participated in outdoor hobbies including hunting, fishing and camping.
• As a youth he attended church and Sunday school.
--more--
• He had a female, Hispanic acquaintance named Petra, who had a younger sister named
Tina.
• Around 1960, he went to tech military school. He then joined the military for active duty
and was discharged in 1966.
• He has a basic knowledge of photography and the ability to develop and print pictures.
• In 1966 he moved back in with his mother who had re-married and was renting out part
of her house.
• His first job was as an electro-mechanic, requiring some travel.
• After attending more tech school, he worked repairing copiers and business equipment;
this sometimes required travel and he was away from home for extended periods.
• He admits to soliciting prostitutes.
• He has a lifetime fascination with railroads and trains.
Based upon the investigation to date, police believe that BTK:
• Frequented the WSU campus in the early 1970s.
• Was acquainted with PJ Wyatt, who taught a folklore class at WSU during the 1970s.
• Has written or still writes poetry. An example of this is the “Oh Anna, Why Didn’t You
Appear” poem and the “Oh! Death to Nancy” poem that were released in earlier media
advisories.
• Utilized fake identification to gain access to people’s homes or to conduct surveillance.
Based upon the information contained in the letter, police are again asking for help from the
public. Police want to talk to any citizen who currently knows, or recalls anyone having a similar
background to the one described above.
Citizens with information who are calling locally are asked to call 383-8273; those calling from
outside the Wichita area are asked to call 1-800-SOLVBTK (1-800-765-8285). They can also
e-mail information to coldcase@wichita.gov or mail information to Cold Case, P.O. Box 9202,
Wichita, KS 67277-0202.

Abba-Dabba · 12-02-2004, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Saggysack

An arrest has been made 'sources say' in the BTK case. Suspects name Roger ?. Lives at 1421 E. Mt Vernon. A few feet away from railroad tracks. My exwife and her mother live 3 blocks from scene. My wife takes my daughter over to my daughter ex's house every morning. I pick her up around 8:30am Mon-Fri. to take her to school. Drive by the freakin house pretty much daily.

Roger Valadez, divorced, lived in house since 1976, 3 children, unknown to me if any grandchildren. But, when I drove by this morning to pick up my daughter there were kids toys in the yard, police in the driveway and news crews all around. House is about 300ft away from a elementary school. Bail has been raised from 17.5K this morning to 40K, 25K cash bond on a warrant from 1995 for suspicion of criminal trespass and violations of city housing codes.

Monty · 12-02-2004, 10:24 AM

Where are you getting the updated info?

I find it amazing

that 2 days after they release information to the public, they get an arrest. Why couldn't they have done this years ago?

Brock · 12-02-2004, 10:27 AM

Wonder if this is some of his kin.

http://docnet.dc.state.ks.us/kasper2...r.asp?id=46652

Abba-Dabba · 12-02-2004, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty

Where are you getting the updated info?

I find it amazing

that 2 days after they release information to the public, they get an arrest. Why couldn't they have done this years ago?

here and there

From what I heard is they recieved a tip. WPD still has no comment.

Abba-Dabba · 12-02-2004, 10:34 AM

I think it is safe to assume that even if this guy isn't BTK. He will never live in that house again.

Monty · 12-02-2004, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saggysack

here and there

From what I heard is they recieved a tip. WPD still has no comment.

Ok, thanks for the updates.

**Rain Man** · 12-02-2004, 10:40 AM

It's probably also safe to assume that he'll keep his house painted and stop parking in the front yard, too.

RedNFeisty · 12-02-2004, 10:43 AM

"The man was booked into Sedgwick County Jail at 8:31 p.m. on suspicion of criminal trespass. Bond was initially set at $2,500, then increased to $17,500 after he was booked under a second warrant. That warrant charged him with several violations of city housing codes.

The allegations include failing to maintain the exterior of a house, failing to paint a house, failing to maintain the structure of a house, parking in a front yard and storing inoperable vehicles."

WTF!?! Why do you guys think this might be BTK, if he was arrested and booked for failing to maintain his house? Who in the hell gets arrested for not maintaining their house anyway, wouldn't half of Wichita be under arrest for the above allegations?

Abba-Dabba · 12-02-2004, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It's probably also safe to assume that he'll keep his house painted and stop parking in the front yard, too.

True, but, fences are hard to drive thru.

Abba-Dabba · 12-02-2004, 10:47 AM

It has been widely believed that he has suffered a life changing event(death in family, retirement, divorce, etc.) as the reason he starting communicating again this past March.

Roger Valadez lost his brother this past January....

Quote:

Raymond A. Valadez

Valadez, Raymond A., 68, retired Cessna machinist, died Sunday, Jan. 18, 2004. Memorial service 10:30 a.m. Wednesday, Glenn Park Christian Church. Survivors: wife, Tillie of the home; son, Ray of Brandon, FL; daughter, Roxanne O'Connor of Wichita; brothers, Louis, Tony, Roger, Bobby; sisters, Josie Cornejo, Cecelia Avila, Carolyn Perez all of Wichita; three grandchildren. Memorial to Glenn Park Christian Church.

Monty · 12-02-2004, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNFeisty

WTF!?! Why do you guys think this might be BTK, if he was arrested and booked for failing to maintain his house? Who in the hell gets arrested for not maintaining their house anyway, wouldn't half of Wichita be under arrest for the above allegations?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but it's normal procedure to book a suspect for something to just hold them until they can formalize the real charges.

And yes, half of Wichita would be in violation.

Abba-Dabba · 12-02-2004, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNFeisty

"The man was booked into Sedgwick County Jail at 8:31 p.m. on suspicion of criminal trespass. Bond was initially set at $2,500, then increased to $17,500 after he was booked under a second warrant. That warrant charged him with several violations of city housing codes.

The allegations include failing to maintain the exterior of a house, failing to paint a house, failing to maintain the structure of a house, parking in a front yard and storing inoperable vehicles."

WTF!?! Why do you guys think this might be BTK, if he was arrested and booked for failing to maintain his house? Who in the hell gets arrested for not maintaining their house anyway, wouldn't half of Wichita be under arrest for the above allegations?

I'd say they have their man. Way too much going on for a simple trespass warrant and violation of city housing codes.

Abba-Dabba · 12-02-2004, 10:50 AM

I'd paint my house but I like the natural color of brick better.

**Iowanian** · 12-02-2004, 10:52 AM

Why don't they just turn Nancy Drew onto the case and give this clown the gas on public access already....

Abba-Dabba · 12-02-2004, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian

Why don't they just turn Nancy Drew onto the case and give this clown the gas on public access already....

I'd go for that. Considering the guy killed women and children and jacked off on their dead bodies, he would deserve the public execution.

11-30-2004, 05:58 PM
Nubian Nut Make my Funk the P-Funk..... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Casino cash: $3495191	Do U know BTK? BTK describes his background Since March 2004, BTK has sent numerous communications to the media and the police. In these letters, he has provided certain background information about himself, which he claims is accurate. Based upon a review of that information, the following facts about BTK are being made available to the public in the hopes of identifying BTK: • He claims he was born in 1939, which would make his current age 64 or 65. • His father died in World War II, and his mother raised him. • His mother was forced to work, so his grandparents cared for him. • His mother worked during the day near the railroad. • He had a cousin named Susan, who moved to Missouri. • His family moved a lot, but always lived near a railroad. • His grandfather played the fiddle and died of a lung disease. • His mother started dating a railroad detective when BTK was around 11 years old. This relationship would have occurred during the years 1950-1955. • In the early 1950s he built and operated a ham radio. • He has participated in outdoor hobbies including hunting, fishing and camping. • As a youth he attended church and Sunday school. --more-- • He had a female, Hispanic acquaintance named Petra, who had a younger sister named Tina. • Around 1960, he went to tech military school. He then joined the military for active duty and was discharged in 1966. • He has a basic knowledge of photography and the ability to develop and print pictures. • In 1966 he moved back in with his mother who had re-married and was renting out part of her house. • His first job was as an electro-mechanic, requiring some travel. • After attending more tech school, he worked repairing copiers and business equipment; this sometimes required travel and he was away from home for extended periods. • He admits to soliciting prostitutes. • He has a lifetime fascination with railroads and trains. Based upon the investigation to date, police believe that BTK: • Frequented the WSU campus in the early 1970s. • Was acquainted with PJ Wyatt, who taught a folklore class at WSU during the 1970s. • Has written or still writes poetry. An example of this is the “Oh Anna, Why Didn’t You Appear” poem and the “Oh! Death to Nancy” poem that were released in earlier media advisories. • Utilized fake identification to gain access to people’s homes or to conduct surveillance. Based upon the information contained in the letter, police are again asking for help from the public. Police want to talk to any citizen who currently knows, or recalls anyone having a similar background to the one described above. Citizens with information who are calling locally are asked to call 383-8273; those calling from outside the Wichita area are asked to call 1-800-SOLVBTK (1-800-765-8285). They can also e-mail information to coldcase@wichita.gov or mail information to Cold Case, P.O. Box 9202, Wichita, KS 67277-0202.
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RedNFeisty Smokin Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10004900	"The man was booked into Sedgwick County Jail at 8:31 p.m. on suspicion of criminal trespass. Bond was initially set at $2,500, then increased to $17,500 after he was booked under a second warrant. That warrant charged him with several violations of city housing codes. The allegations include failing to maintain the exterior of a house, failing to paint a house, failing to maintain the structure of a house, parking in a front yard and storing inoperable vehicles." WTF!?! Why do you guys think this might be BTK, if he was arrested and booked for failing to maintain his house? Who in the hell gets arrested for not maintaining their house anyway, wouldn't half of Wichita be under arrest for the above allegations? __________________ F.O.C.U.S sportsshrink: Don't bite the hand that feeds you!!!! "We the Fans" feed you Morons!!
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