NCAA bans American Indian mascot names in the postseason - Page 4

**Saulbadguy** · 08-05-2005, 09:28 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2125735

NCAA American Indian mascot ban will begin Feb. 1
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.

The NCAA's Executive Committee decided this week the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools, committee chairman Walter Harrison said Friday.

Nicknames or mascots deemed "hostile or abusive" would not be allowed by teams on their uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.

"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, he said.

Guidelines were not immediately available on which logos and nicknames would be considered "hostile or abusive."

The NCAA two years ago recommended that schools determine for themselves whether the Indian depictions were offensive.

Among the schools to change nicknames in recent years over such concerns were St. John's (from Redmen to Red Storm) and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles).

The NCAA plans to ban schools using Indian nicknames from hosting postseason events. Harrison said schools with such mascots that have already been selected as tournament sites would be asked to cover any offensive logos.

Such logos also would be prohibited at postseason games on cheerleader and band uniforms starting in 2008.

Coach · 08-05-2005, 10:53 AM

NCAA = Fugging joke.

Sam · 08-05-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Yeah, I've read that on the board previously, but I bet 50% or less of those that claim to be KC fans know that one.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 08-05-2005, 10:58 AM

I wonder how they would feel about a team called the caucasions...

Mile High Mania · 08-05-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

You're obviously in the 50% group that knows...

teedubya · 08-05-2005, 11:01 AM

we kill their people... we steal their land... we destroy their culture... we feel bad, so we honor their names with sports teams... then we have to stop using the honored names...

When did America start to suck so bad?

Sam · 08-05-2005, 11:01 AM

1963
Despite the Texans championship season in ‘62, the Dallas market simply could not sustain two professional football franchises. In early ‘63, Hunt had taken scouting trips to cities such as Atlanta and Miami. Kansas City Mayor H. Roe Bartle learned of Hunt’s interest in a new home for the Texans and extended an invitation for Hunt and Jack Steadman to move the franchise to Mid-America. After the duo visited Kansas City on an incognito basis, an ambitious campaign took shape to deliver on Bartle’s guarantee to Hunt of tripling the season-ticket base the Texans had enjoyed in Dallas. Kansas City’s mayor, nicknamed “Chief,” also promised to add 3,000 permanent seats to Municipal Stadium, as well as 11,000 temporary bleacher seats. Along with Bartle, a number of other prominent Kansas Citians stepped forward to aid in the efforts, putting together more than 1,000 workers to sell season tickets. On May 22nd, Hunt announced he was moving the franchise to Kansas City. Hunt and Stram initially planned on calling the relocated team the Kansas City Texans, but thanks to the insistence of Steadman, the team was officially christened the Chiefs on May 26th, in part to honor the efforts of Bartle. During their inaugural season in Kansas City, the Chiefs charged $7 for box seats and $6 for reserved seats at Municipal Stadium

chagrin · 08-05-2005, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me

I wonder how they would feel about a team called the caucasions...

How about

The White Ass Whiteys

or

Stupid No Tolerance White People

or

White Men Can't Jump

or

Michael Madsen Can't Dance

or

God I Hate White People

or

Washington W.A.S.P.'s

Demonpenz · 08-05-2005, 11:02 AM

i know this has already been said, but i love how they go after the easiest thing to do instead of trying to provide real change. It's sad to see how the diabetes and alcholism have plagued the reservations

chiefqueen · 08-05-2005, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

What would you guys choose for an alternate name for KC should this craziness extend into the NFL?

One more time!!!!!!!!!!!!...............the Chiefs are named after H. Roe Bartle who was KCMO Mayor in the 1950's and had the nickname "Big Chief".

Dr. Johnny Fever · 08-05-2005, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chagrin

How about

The White Ass Whiteys

or

Stupid No Tolerance White People

or

White Men Can't Jump

or

Michael Madsen Can't Dance

or

God I Hate White People

or

Washington W.A.S.P.'s

I'm sure "we" would be accussed of being elitest. But when we use the name Chiefs or Indians or Braves or Redskins we are somehow being negative toward them.

Mile High Mania · 08-05-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

we kill their people... we steal their land... we destroy their culture... we feel bad, so we honor their names with sports teams... then we have to stop using the honored names...

When did America start to suck so bad?

Let's not get too high and mighty.. I doubt "honoring" them was the first thing in the minds of those that chose many of the names in question.

Mile High Mania · 08-05-2005, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefqueen

One more time!!!!!!!!!!!!...............the Chiefs are named after H. Roe Bartle who was KCMO Mayor in the 1950's and had the nickname "Big Chief".

I understand WHY the name is there... tool. That doesn't take away from the themes of the Chiefs being used. That is why if it reached the NFL level, the Chiefs and Redskins would fall into question.

Garcia Bronco · 08-05-2005, 11:32 AM

It doesn't really matter anyway...they'll probably change the name of the Chiefs when they move to Cali.

**Bearcat** · 08-05-2005, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Let's not get too high and mighty.. I doubt "honoring" them was the first thing in the minds of those that chose many of the names in question.

Bartle's tribe was honoring Native Americans, so in that respect, the name Chiefs is, too....

cadmonkey · 08-05-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

It doesn't really matter anyway...they'll probably change the name of the Chiefs when they move to Cali.

Why, the Lakers didn't change their name.

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