Okay Gunther supporters DEFEND YOUR BOY! - Page 4

FloridaMan88 · 08-17-2006, 06:23 PM

Remind us again why the Chiefs were smart in keeping Gunther onboard as defensive coordinator.

I need a good laugh to get through this soon-to-be ass kicking

**Rausch** · 08-17-2006, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Enlighten us... what exactly is going to change once the regular season begins?

Nothing.

Gunther will still be our defensive coordinator and there isn't $#it you can do about it but bitch.

And the more you pointlessly bitch the smaller the number of posters who bother to ready your knee-jerk tripe...

Davechief · 08-17-2006, 10:05 PM

The only thing that I would suggest is just get rid of Ryan Sims now. He was getting knocked on his ass by guys that will be bagging groceries in 3 weeks. Other than Trezelle Jenkins he is probably our worst draft pick ever.

eChief · 08-18-2006, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

Ohh we lost another preseason game..... all is lost...

whine some more......

You either have to be blind or stupid to think that this was a good showing even for pre-season.

If I were you I'd find another board to post on. I hear WPI needs members.

eChief · 08-18-2006, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by noa949

Well, then, its a good thing this wasn't the regular season then isn't it?

From the evidence we all have seen from the first two abortions of pre-season it is laughable to think that we can expect much more from the regular season.

Pre-season is when the starters get in the game and show their face, but they are expected to perform like they will in the regular season. Anything after the first quarter is disregarded. If you want to see the greatness of the backups you have seen that we have no backups.

This whole team, first string through practice field fodder all suck.

I will expect you to recant your "It's only pre-season when the Chiefs are 0-8 at the halfway mark of the season.

htismaqe · 08-18-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Enlighten us... what exactly is going to change once the regular season begins? This was STARTING defense versus the opposing team's STARTING offense for the few series of the game, and the Chiefs starting defense was humiliated... just like they were last week versus Houston's starting offense.

You like the other Gunther ass kissers can continue to live in denial that your boy is a complete FRAUD and continue to cling to false hope that eventually this defense is going to come around, but through two preseason games the starting defense has shown the same problems that has plagued the defense for the past few seasons.

You know what, I came to this thread to laugh at you.

If all you're going to do is attack other board members for posting their opinions, I'll just ban your stupid ass.

And if it makes you feel better, Carl Peterson told me to do it.

htismaqe · 08-18-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by eChief

From the evidence we all have seen from the first two abortions of pre-season it is laughable to think that we can expect much more from the regular season.

Pre-season is when the starters get in the game and show their face, but they are expected to perform like they will in the regular season. Anything after the first quarter is disregarded. If you want to see the greatness of the backups you have seen that we have no backups.

This whole team, first string through practice field fodder all suck.

I will expect you to recant your "It's only pre-season when the Chiefs are 0-8 at the halfway mark of the season.

Sounds JUST LIKE LAST YEAR.

Kylo Ren · 08-18-2006, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

Remind us again why the Chiefs were smart in keeping Gunther onboard as defensive coordinator.

I need a good laugh to get through this soon-to-be ass kicking

Don't look at me. I'm not a big fan of Gunther.

MOhillbilly · 08-18-2006, 07:00 AM

i said lastyear after a visit to the east coast and seeing upclose how a top 10 D is coached and taught that Coach Cunningham wasnt teaching his players in a way they could understand.

It looks even worse this year.

Bootlegged · 08-18-2006, 07:03 AM

tiptap · 08-18-2006, 07:10 AM

Pre season games are not meaningless. There is statistical correlation between overwheling play in the preseason and regular season playing the same team. That is the correlation of play between dominating a team in the pre season (when the starters are in the first quarter) and playing and beating that team in the regular season is on level with the correlation of dominating and winning both games with interdivisional rival.

So there is reason to be concerned. But as the optimist I think this is something that is circulating within NFL training camps. That the preseason play IS the determinator for play in season for some coaches. The result is that more diverse play calling, blitzing is taking place. And the energy level is pumped up.

This is what I saw. I saw a team pumped up to play with all the nervous energy of a real game vs the Chiefs that were meshing things still and not focused upon their opponent. The first two games were away games. Let's see how it goes next week.

We now have Shields out so we have 4 out of 5 new lineman. Wiegman has always played beyond his physical skills and therefore is not going to be able to take pressure off the others. I suspect there will be some sputtering at the beginning of the season.

**Lzen** · 08-18-2006, 07:55 AM

Look, it's a new scheme(again) and the whole team didn't even look prepared for the Giants. If they play like this in the regular season, believe me, I'll be the first in line calling for Gun's resignation. But as of now, it is just preseason.

MOhillbilly · 08-18-2006, 08:01 AM

the cover 2 isnt rocket surgery.

Coaches are there to teach players to be in position to make plays.
Players are there to do there job by staying in position and making those plays.

I havent seen any of that in two games. Be it from bad coaching of poor headed personel or both.

regardless it still falls on the coaching staff.(if herm is the tampa 2 god, they shouldnt look this bad)

burt · 08-18-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by eChief

You either have to be blind or stupid to think that this was a good showing even for pre-season.

It was a shitty showing. But I will still reserve ALL judgement until the season opener.

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Originally Posted by eChief

If I were you I'd find another board to post on. I hear WPI needs members.

Great advise from you...and your 14 post....I sure he appreciated it....

King_Chief_Fan · 08-18-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Look, it's a new scheme(again) and the whole team didn't even look prepared for the Giants. If they play like this in the regular season, believe me, I'll be the first in line calling for Gun's resignation. But as of now, it is just preseason.

The god of defense (Herm) has probably hamstrung Gun to do nothing but follow Herm's orders. I too shall wait

MOhillbilly · 08-18-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

The god of defense (Herm) has probably hamstrung Gun to do nothing but follow Herm's orders. I too shall wait

**** that.

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MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	i said lastyear after a visit to the east coast and seeing upclose how a top 10 D is coached and taught that Coach Cunningham wasnt teaching his players in a way they could understand. It looks even worse this year. __________________ True Son of Liberty
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tiptap Is this it? Join Date: Jan 2004 Casino cash: $10007847	Pre season games are not meaningless. There is statistical correlation between overwheling play in the preseason and regular season playing the same team. That is the correlation of play between dominating a team in the pre season (when the starters are in the first quarter) and playing and beating that team in the regular season is on level with the correlation of dominating and winning both games with interdivisional rival. So there is reason to be concerned. But as the optimist I think this is something that is circulating within NFL training camps. That the preseason play IS the determinator for play in season for some coaches. The result is that more diverse play calling, blitzing is taking place. And the energy level is pumped up. This is what I saw. I saw a team pumped up to play with all the nervous energy of a real game vs the Chiefs that were meshing things still and not focused upon their opponent. The first two games were away games. Let's see how it goes next week. We now have Shields out so we have 4 out of 5 new lineman. Wiegman has always played beyond his physical skills and therefore is not going to be able to take pressure off the others. I suspect there will be some sputtering at the beginning of the season. __________________ Even a superstitious man has certain inalienable rights. He has a right to harbor and indulge his imbecilities as long as he pleases. . . He has a right to argue for them as eloquently as he can, in season and out of season. He has a right to teach them to his children. But certainly he has no right to be protected against the free criticism of those who do not hold them. He has no right to demand that they be treated as sacred. He has no right to preach them without challenge." -H.L. Mencken
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08-18-2006, 08:01 AM	#57
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	the cover 2 isnt rocket surgery. Coaches are there to teach players to be in position to make plays. Players are there to do there job by staying in position and making those plays. I havent seen any of that in two games. Be it from bad coaching of poor headed personel or both. regardless it still falls on the coaching staff.(if herm is the tampa 2 god, they shouldnt look this bad) __________________ True Son of Liberty
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