This not a revamped D, DV has as much to do with it than you care to admit!

[chiefsfan1963]

Last time I checked the majority of the players on D were here last year.

Given that DV was not here this past off season, you can't predict which players he would or wouldn't have drafted. Also CP would have had input so Hali probably would have been drafted and potential the other rookies that made the roster as well.

Law would have also been pursued and acquired given our prospects in being a playoff team.

The D was a work in progress and DV was big part of it.

Now that he and AS are gone all their naysayers are coming out claiming the D is great now they are gone. Not fair.

I'm happy the D is finally turned the corner, but don't give all the credit to Herm. Give his DV some credit for leaving some kind of solid base to work from.

Unfortunately, DV and AS left with our O's keys and we can't get it out of the garage.

If DV/AS were still here we would be 2-0 going into our bye week.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj

... It wasn't until Herm's arrival and hands on approach that the D has finally shown some real promise.

Do you think it may have had something to do with DV's loyalty being gone? Herm has no ties to players that don't perform. Players were afraid for their jobs.

[Chiefnj]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Do you think it may have had something to do with DV's loyalty being gone? Herm has no ties to players that don't perform. Players were afraid for their jobs.

Good question. Are you asking if I associate the better play from the defense to the fact that players are afraid of losing their jobs? If so, not really.

I don't think the bubble players improved much, in fact most of them lost their starting jobs - Sims, Dalton, Hicks. Perhaps Wesley improved.

I'm not sure there was much DV loyalty to defensive players. There was a big turnover in guys during those 5 years. There were a lot of free agents that came and went and stayed.