I think what bothers me most about last week.... - Page 4

PastorMikH · 01-07-2007, 10:07 PM

I think what bothers me the most about last week is that for the first time in 3 years I actually had some hope and excitement about the Chiefs actually doing something. I had NO hope at all that DV would get anything done in his last year. From the time Herm was hire and throughout the season, I just has a wait and see attitude. Even when we were 7-3 I was thinking there was a chance that we might do something, but there was a lot of ball left to be played. Then, when we lost to the Browns, I pretty much lost hope in this year.

But when we managed to get in, and I got to thinking about the matchups, I felt that we ACTUALLY had a shot at doing something. I honestly thought we could beat the Colts. I thought that we could play with the rest of the AFC teams once we got going - even the Chargers. I pulled out the car door magnets that I pulled off two years ago and refused to put back on until the Chiefs were contenders. I was actually a bit dissapointed when I realized I would miss the game because of my daughter's basketball games, but I went anyway because that's where I knew I was supposed to be.

Then I get home. I read and watched what happened and I'm so frustrated right now. Rationally, I know that making the playoffs is at least a step in the right direction. But emotionaly I would have felt better right now if we hadn't made it - I've been conditioned for that outcome for several years now. At least then I wouldn't have had false hope built up and then smashed to bits and pieces.

I'll be a fan throughout the offseason, I'll be a fan next fall, I'll be a fan next year, this is my team. But WHY oh WHY did I have to fall in love with the Chiefs? Why couldn't it have been another team? Why did I have to pick a team that is content with mediocracy as long as the tickets sell?

Man it hurts. I just keep hoping that one day things will change. It probably won't, but a fan can hope.

I just had to get that off my chest.

PastorMikH · 01-09-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisdel

I totally feel the same pain here as everyone else, but let's not get too carried away with our "woe is me" attitude. Every fanbase goes through more pain than glory, because only one team wins a championship. Look at Cleveland. The Browns haven't won in forever, they watched their team move to Baltimore, get an expansion team that years later is still an expansion team, and then have to deal with their old team in Baltimore win a Super Bowl (and may win another this year). Misery is part of being a fan.

I think what hurts is seeing other teams around us have more success. Every team in the AFC West, including Seattle, has been to the Super Bowl under Carl's reign except us. But we all know that, don't we?

Right now I'd be happy with "Decent" "Competitive" or even "On The Rise". I could do without "SB Champs" for several years if the other names applied.

I'm struggling with the fact that we can't seem to learn from past mistakes. Build a championship D, when that doesn't work, scratch the D and build a championship O, when that doesn't work, scratch it and try to build another D.

This may be unpopular right now, but a lot of this IMO is Lamar's doing. I used to think he didn't care or he didn't want to spend the $ but in the last month or so, I've come to the realization that the problem may have been that Lamar cared enough about the staff and players that he didn't want to hurt them. I think he also didn't need to win to love the game. So, he didn't always make some of the moves necesary to put a winner on the field.

**Manila-Chief** · 01-09-2007, 11:08 PM

Good post Mike ... It is difficult for me to watch them because in the 90's most of the time they won ... now, most of the time they lose and I get all nervous.

Fax, you are correct, sir, concerning the D. We did improve but we didn't improve enough for the D to carry the team the way Marty's team's did.

I'm disappointed because Herm had a golden opportunity ... do what Dungy did ... leave the O in the hands of the experts ... Mike S. could have run the O the way that Al S. did last year if Herm had stayed out of the way. If he had then we would have had enough of a balanced team to have gone deep into the playoffs.

No, I don't buy the argument that we lost T. Rich, Big Willie, etc. ... last year we lost Roaf for several games and the offense continued to score. It was Herm's offensive principle ... don't score too fast, help the D out .... yadda, yadda, yadda ....

The best way to help your defense (with improved talent and better schemes like this year) is to score points ... get the other team in a big hole and make them play catch up. Imagine what we could have done with the 2 CB's and young DB we had this year if they had a lead to work with.

I'm afraid it will be another (not sure who said this but I agree) 5 year plan that is doomed to fail before it starts. Herm doesn't know offense and is too dumb to admit it.

**Manila-Chief** · 01-09-2007, 11:13 PM

Mike ... you are correct about it being Lamar's fault. Back in the 60's it was reported that he had a burning desire to be equal to the NFL and to win a championship. He put his money where his mouth
was ... we won a S.B.

Then he noticed the money it was costing ... hired Jack Steadman as president or turned things over to him ... we have been struggling ever since. Yep, Kingless is making the Hunt's money but we have not been close to winning a S.B.

InChiefsHeaven · 01-10-2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

The best way to help your defense (with improved talent and better schemes like this year) is to score points ... get the other team in a big hole and make them play catch up. Imagine what we could have done with the 2 CB's and young DB we had this year if they had a lead to work with.

Ummm...Cleveland.

01-07-2007, 10:07 PM
PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks Casino cash: $9905087	I think what bothers me most about last week.... I think what bothers me the most about last week is that for the first time in 3 years I actually had some hope and excitement about the Chiefs actually doing something. I had NO hope at all that DV would get anything done in his last year. From the time Herm was hire and throughout the season, I just has a wait and see attitude. Even when we were 7-3 I was thinking there was a chance that we might do something, but there was a lot of ball left to be played. Then, when we lost to the Browns, I pretty much lost hope in this year. But when we managed to get in, and I got to thinking about the matchups, I felt that we ACTUALLY had a shot at doing something. I honestly thought we could beat the Colts. I thought that we could play with the rest of the AFC teams once we got going - even the Chargers. I pulled out the car door magnets that I pulled off two years ago and refused to put back on until the Chiefs were contenders. I was actually a bit dissapointed when I realized I would miss the game because of my daughter's basketball games, but I went anyway because that's where I knew I was supposed to be. Then I get home. I read and watched what happened and I'm so frustrated right now. Rationally, I know that making the playoffs is at least a step in the right direction. But emotionaly I would have felt better right now if we hadn't made it - I've been conditioned for that outcome for several years now. At least then I wouldn't have had false hope built up and then smashed to bits and pieces. I'll be a fan throughout the offseason, I'll be a fan next fall, I'll be a fan next year, this is my team. But WHY oh WHY did I have to fall in love with the Chiefs? Why couldn't it have been another team? Why did I have to pick a team that is content with mediocracy as long as the tickets sell? Man it hurts. I just keep hoping that one day things will change. It probably won't, but a fan can hope. I just had to get that off my chest.
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01-09-2007, 11:08 PM	#47
Manila-Chief Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis/Miss Casino cash: $10006883	Good post Mike ... It is difficult for me to watch them because in the 90's most of the time they won ... now, most of the time they lose and I get all nervous. Fax, you are correct, sir, concerning the D. We did improve but we didn't improve enough for the D to carry the team the way Marty's team's did. I'm disappointed because Herm had a golden opportunity ... do what Dungy did ... leave the O in the hands of the experts ... Mike S. could have run the O the way that Al S. did last year if Herm had stayed out of the way. If he had then we would have had enough of a balanced team to have gone deep into the playoffs. No, I don't buy the argument that we lost T. Rich, Big Willie, etc. ... last year we lost Roaf for several games and the offense continued to score. It was Herm's offensive principle ... don't score too fast, help the D out .... yadda, yadda, yadda .... The best way to help your defense (with improved talent and better schemes like this year) is to score points ... get the other team in a big hole and make them play catch up. Imagine what we could have done with the 2 CB's and young DB we had this year if they had a lead to work with. I'm afraid it will be another (not sure who said this but I agree) 5 year plan that is doomed to fail before it starts. Herm doesn't know offense and is too dumb to admit it.
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01-09-2007, 11:13 PM	#48
Manila-Chief Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis/Miss Casino cash: $10006883	Mike ... you are correct about it being Lamar's fault. Back in the 60's it was reported that he had a burning desire to be equal to the NFL and to win a championship. He put his money where his mouth was ... we won a S.B. Then he noticed the money it was costing ... hired Jack Steadman as president or turned things over to him ... we have been struggling ever since. Yep, Kingless is making the Hunt's money but we have not been close to winning a S.B.
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