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Star Trek cashed in on the success of Star Wars 12 38.71%
Star Trek did it all on it's own. 19 61.29%
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Old 02-04-2007, 11:33 PM  
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Would we have seen a Star Trek film in 1979 without Star Wars in '77?
As many of you might be aware, after the smash hit success of Star Wars, science fiction films, thought to be a mostly dead genre, suddenly started popping up all over the place. One such film was Star Trek I: The Motion Picture.

What impact did Star Wars have on 80's science fiction in general and the resurrection of Star Trek as a similar franchise?

Or is this a mere coincidence?

Consider that the Star Trek franchise used Industrial Light and Magic for special effects in every film, a studio created by George Lucas.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:48 AM   #46
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:51 AM   #47
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And speaking of the Star Trek movie that's in development, I think it is a mistake to go backwards with the Star Trek myth, and tell a story of how Kirk, Spock, and McCoy all became buds. You'd think they would have caught on to the fact that going backwards in the storyline isn't exactly what the fans want with the quiet cancellation of Enterprise.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:07 AM   #48
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No.
The correct answer is "Not that I'm aware of, but I've never adequately researched anything other than Star Wars because that's all that is important to me".

siberian khatru and I share fond recollections of a couple pretty good British sci-fi series, and we still haven't addressed Keir Dullea's "Space Ark" series.

And, in so much as I'm not a huge fan, Dr. Who has been around forever.
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:21 AM   #49
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Wasn't there plenty of sci fi in the 70s?
-Battlestar Galactica tv series.
-Soylent Green.
-A Clockwork Orange
-Logan's Run
UFO
Space:1999
The Starlost
Logan's Run (count Harlan Ellison among the writer's)
A Boy and His Dog (Harlan Ellison once again)
Silent Running (Classic!)
Colossus: The Forbin Project
The Andromeda Strain (another classic)
The Omega Man
THX 1138
Slaughterhouse Five (Reminding us all why we should be grateful for Valerie Perrine before Superman)
Westworld/Futureworld
Rollerball
The Stepford Wives ( a case where the remake did not live up to the original)
The Man Who Fell To Earth (Bowie's landmark )
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
Alien
Mad Max

Y'know, just because you didn't experience an era, doesn't mean you should discount the contributions.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:49 PM   #50
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UFO
Space:1999
The Starlost
Logan's Run (count Harlan Ellison among the writer's)
A Boy and His Dog (Harlan Ellison once again)
Silent Running (Classic!)
Colossus: The Forbin Project
The Andromeda Strain (another classic)
The Omega Man
THX 1138
Slaughterhouse Five (Reminding us all why we should be grateful for Valerie Perrine before Superman)
Westworld/Futureworld
Rollerball
The Stepford Wives ( a case where the remake did not live up to the original)
The Man Who Fell To Earth (Bowie's landmark )
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
Alien
Mad Max

Y'know, just because you didn't experience an era, doesn't mean you should discount the contributions.
Did I kill this thread or what?
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:54 PM   #51
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UFO
Space:1999
The Starlost
Logan's Run (count Harlan Ellison among the writer's)
A Boy and His Dog (Harlan Ellison once again)
Silent Running (Classic!)
Colossus: The Forbin Project
The Andromeda Strain (another classic)
The Omega Man
THX 1138
Slaughterhouse Five (Reminding us all why we should be grateful for Valerie Perrine before Superman)
Westworld/Futureworld
Rollerball
The Stepford Wives ( a case where the remake did not live up to the original)
The Man Who Fell To Earth (Bowie's landmark )
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
Alien
Mad Max
Will you marry me?
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:38 PM   #52
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No, but I will race you to the 1974 version of Valerie Perrine. Or that chick from Logan's Run. We'll let GoCHiefs choose between Huey, Dewie and Louie.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:54 PM   #53
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No, but I will race you to the 1974 version of Valerie Perrine. Or that chick from Logan's Run. We'll let GoCHiefs choose between Huey, Dewie and Louie.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:06 PM   #54
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UFO
Space:1999
The Starlost
Logan's Run (count Harlan Ellison among the writer's)
A Boy and His Dog (Harlan Ellison once again)
Silent Running (Classic!)
Colossus: The Forbin Project
The Andromeda Strain (another classic)
The Omega Man
THX 1138
Slaughterhouse Five (Reminding us all why we should be grateful for Valerie Perrine before Superman)
Westworld/Futureworld
Rollerball
The Stepford Wives ( a case where the remake did not live up to the original)
The Man Who Fell To Earth (Bowie's landmark )
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)
Alien
Mad Max

Y'know, just because you didn't experience an era, doesn't mean you should discount the contributions.
Great list...I'd almost forgotten about The Starlost. Interesting concept, I thought.

Oh, The Terminal Man and Ark II were also classic 70's. Didn't Le Guin's Lathe of Heaven (PBS version) come out in the 70's as well?
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Again, I'm not interested in television shows. This thread is strictly about movies, and the 70s were a dry well for science fiction films before Star Wars. That's why Lucas had such a hard time selling it to anyone. Thankfully John Williams and Alec Guiness lent it some credibility or it would have never seen the light of day.

And he only had the money to make it because of American Graffiti.
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Again, I'm not interested in television shows. This thread is strictly about movies, and the 70s were a dry well for science fiction films before Star Wars. That's why Lucas had such a hard time selling it to anyone. Thankfully John Williams and Alec Guiness lent it some credibility or it would have never seen the light of day.

And he only had the money to make it because of American Graffiti.
In my list, 15 of those were movies. And once again, you're and idiot. CEot3K is a masterpiece, , as is The Andromeda Strain, and Silent Running was wonderful as well. Alien? Fantastic. For indie sci-fi pics, A Boy and His Dog is legendary. You see, young man, before Gerge Lucas took Greek tragedy to the stars, other writers like Harlan Ellison, Ray Bradbury, and Kurt Vonnegut were writing REAL sci-fi. You can tell the story of Star Wars as a knights in shining armor tale, you can tell it as a western. Real sci-fi is dependant upon the technology. Star Wars is a Space Opera.
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Alien? Fantastic.
Another movie made post-Star Wars...
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Another movie made post-Star Wars...
But still in the 70's.
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