If the Chiefs select ____________ in the 1st Rnd, im going to be pissed - Page 4

NJ Chief Fan · 04-25-2007, 08:30 PM

You people do realize in a cover 2 you need depth along the Dline.

Brock · 04-25-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NJ Chief Fan

You people do realize in a cover 2 you need depth along the Dline.

What people are you talking to?

NJ Chief Fan · 04-26-2007, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

What people are you talking to?

The ones opposing DE with our first pick.

Kclee · 04-26-2007, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NJ Chief Fan

You people do realize in a cover 2 you need depth along the Dline.

You do realize we have 1.5 out of 2 starters for DE and 0 out of 2 starters for DT. All we have is depth on the roster. If the war room thinks it's a reach for a DT, then look at WR or OL. Still reaching? We will need 2 CB's real soon and a nickle this year, grab a CB. Still not the right player? Then grab a stud DE. Who do you have in mind that would fall to us? This is all IMO of course but would rather use a later pick on DE.

**Bowser** · 04-26-2007, 07:54 AM

Joe Staley or Ben Grubbs, which almost guarantees one of those two will be the pick.

Mecca · 04-25-2007, 08:53 PM

Staley is a classic example of teams knowing how important LT is and him being shot up the board due to a few workouts, need picks and workouts shoot him up the board......that's how you get a bust.

HolmeZz · 04-25-2007, 09:39 PM

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Staley is a classic example of teams knowing how important LT is and him being shot up the board due to a few workouts, need picks and workouts shoot him up the board......that's how you get a bust.

I think it has more to do with the fact that he went to a small school and not until he competed recently against top talent was he able to show what he could do.

htismaqe · 04-26-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

I think it has more to do with the fact that he went to a small school and not until he competed recently against top talent was he able to show what he could do.

Scott Wright disagrees with you.

2. Joe Staley, OT, Central Michigan
There is no doubt that Joe Staley is one of the hottest prospects in the draft right now and while you certainly can't discount his talent and great Pro Day workout (he ran a 4.82 forty at 304 lbs.) a big part of the reason is simple circumstances at his position. Basically the supply is just not meeting the demand when it comes to the offensive tackle position and if you don't get one of the Big 3 of Joe Thomas, Levi Brown or Staley there is a chance you won't get a left tackle who can come in and contribute early on. Right now Staley is a lock for the Top 20-25 and depending on how things break down the Top 10 overall is not even out of the question.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/hotlist.html

eazyb81 · 04-26-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Scott Wright disagrees with you.

2. Joe Staley, OT, Central Michigan
There is no doubt that Joe Staley is one of the hottest prospects in the draft right now and while you certainly can't discount his talent and great Pro Day workout (he ran a 4.82 forty at 304 lbs.) a big part of the reason is simple circumstances at his position. Basically the supply is just not meeting the demand when it comes to the offensive tackle position and if you don't get one of the Big 3 of Joe Thomas, Levi Brown or Staley there is a chance you won't get a left tackle who can come in and contribute early on. Right now Staley is a lock for the Top 20-25 and depending on how things break down the Top 10 overall is not even out of the question.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/hotlist.html

But Scott Wright also considers Staley a top 23 prospect and lists him as such on his Big Board, which contradicts your claim that he is a reach.

htismaqe · 04-26-2007, 03:58 PM

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But Scott Wright also considers Staley a top 23 prospect and lists him as such on his Big Board, which contradicts your claim that he is a reach.

Scott has him rated a top 23 prospect because

1) he had great workouts

2) the OT is extrememly thin

He says that plainly in several places on his website. Scott is predicting where he'll GO, not where he DESERVES to go.

I'm just glad we won't have to worry about it, he'll be gone before we pick.

bdeg · 04-26-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

I think it has more to do with the fact that he went to a small school and not until he competed recently against top talent was he able to show what he could do.

The only chance he had to compete against top talent was the senior bowl.

I believe he gave up 2 sacks.

htismaqe · 04-26-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

The only chance he had to compete against top talent was the senior bowl.

I believe he gave up 2 sacks.

3 sacks, 2 forced fumbles.

88TG88 · 04-25-2007, 08:54 PM

Eric Wright

and maybe Aaron Ross

HolmeZz · 04-26-2007, 09:24 AM

I don't disagree with the premise that somebody might take him higher because of a need, but I disagree with the idea that he's only up there because of that. There've been players in recent years who've come from smaller schools, made a splash at workouts, and shown they deserved the jump up the board(Merriman and Ware for example).

But I don't see the Chiefs taking Staley anyway. They usually don't draft the 'hot' prospect. Lately they've drafted for value, getting guys who've fallen past where they should've gone(LJ, DJ, Tamba).

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-26-2007, 01:50 PM

Any DT other than Branch or Okoye. Any CB.
Dwayne Bowe. Joe Staley. Roger Vick.

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HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	I don't disagree with the premise that somebody might take him higher because of a need, but I disagree with the idea that he's only up there because of that. There've been players in recent years who've come from smaller schools, made a splash at workouts, and shown they deserved the jump up the board(Merriman and Ware for example). But I don't see the Chiefs taking Staley anyway. They usually don't draft the 'hot' prospect. Lately they've drafted for value, getting guys who've fallen past where they should've gone(LJ, DJ, Tamba).
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04-26-2007, 01:50 PM	#15
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7159572	Any DT other than Branch or Okoye. Any CB. Dwayne Bowe. Joe Staley. Roger Vick. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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