Car Computer Failure

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Hi All,

I recently purchased a Mazda Tribute, and am actually going to pick it up this weekend. I got a call from the dealer this morning, who told me that the check engine light had popped on. They checked with the OBII scanner, and according to him, no error codes popped up, so they thought that it was an error with the computer. Thus, they swapped it out, but the new computer is showing the same problem, only it isn't displaying any error codes. Do you all have any idea what the problems may/may not be?

Thanks again for the help.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by GoBo

Were you aware that it was built by Isuzu?

Yes, I was. Same as the '85 S-10 I had back in 2000. Rusted all to hell, but ran great with 210,000 miles. They both had the 1.9L engine.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by GoBo

Were you aware that it was built by Isuzu?

I responded to HemiEd with 'Isuzu' because he had said Toyota and GM had worked together. Its Isuzu and GM who are partners.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Isuzu

That too, have you never heard of the Toylet?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

That too, have you never heard of the Toylet?

Here is what I was referring to, obviously you are correct, they did a lot with Isuzu.

1985–1988 - Toyota NUMMI Collaboration
1985-1988

Manufacturer Toyota
Production 1985-1988
Assembly Fremont, California
Class Subcompact
Body style(s) 4-door sedan
5-door hatchback
Layout FF layout
Platform GM S platform (Toyota AE82)
Engine(s) 1.6 L I4
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual
3-speed automatic
4-speed automatic
Wheelbase 95.7 in
Length 166.3 in
Width 64.4 in
Height 52.8 in
Fuel capacity 13.2 US gal
Related Toyota Corolla
Toyota Sprinter
Toyota Tercel
Toyota Celica
Daihatsu Charade
Toyota Supra
Toyota MR2
Chevrolet Nova hatchbackIn 1985, the Nova name was applied to a rebadged fifth-generation (AE82) Toyota Corolla. The sedan used the bodyshell of the Japanese-market only Toyota Sprinter line, while a 5-door hatchback was more similar to its'US-spec Toyota-badged counterpart. It was positioned as a replacement for the Citation and was produced at the NUMMI plant in Fremont, California, as an historic first joint venture between General Motors and Toyota. 1988 was the last year for the Nova nameplate on any platform; its replacement arrived in Geo-Chevrolet showrooms as the Geo Prizm the following year.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Chevrolet Nova hatchbackIn 1985, the Nova name was applied to a rebadged fifth-generation (AE82) Toyota Corolla. The sedan used the bodyshell of the Japanese-market only Toyota Sprinter line, while a 5-door hatchback was more similar to its'US-spec Toyota-badged counterpart. It was positioned as a replacement for the Citation and was produced at the NUMMI plant in Fremont, California, as an historic first joint venture between General Motors and Toyota. 1988 was the last year for the Nova nameplate on any platform; its replacement arrived in Geo-Chevrolet showrooms as the Geo Prizm the following year.

I didn't know this. I was wondering who actually made that Nova. WTF was GM thinking back then?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I didn't know this. I was wondering who actually made that Nova. WTF was GM thinking back then?

We used to laugh at it and call it the Toylet. I think GM, along with all the manufacturers were scrambling to win back customers after the horrible quality and gas guzzlers they put out to the public in the 70s.

They all (big three)had to deal with their long time to market for a new model/platform. It took several years, so the easiest and quickest solution was to form an alliance and rebadge another product.

Ironically, at least in Chryslers case IMO, the Mitsubishi's were a bigger piece of shit than their own cars.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

Of course there's a fault. It's a Ford.

Mazda is a Japanese company. Ford only controls like a 1/3 of it.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

We used to laugh at it and call it the Toylet. I think GM, along with all the manufacturers were scrambling to win back customers after the horrible quality and gas guzzlers they put out to the public in the 70s.

They all (big three)had to deal with their long time to market for a new model/platform. It took several years, so the easiest and quickest solution was to form an alliance and rebadge another product.

Ironically, at least in Chryslers case IMO, the Mitsubishi's were a bigger piece of shit than their own cars.

Dodge Colt. I had one.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Dodge Colt. I had one.

Oh my, those were dandys. Several of those made it to the drag strip, even in Pro Stock with Chrysler Hemis in them, along with the Plymouth Arrow.

I had a Dodge D50 and the worst one of all was our Chrysler Conquest. The Conquest owned me the last couple of years. The day I traded that Conquest in on a new LeBaron convertible was one of the best days of my life.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Mazda is a Japanese company. Ford only controls like a 1/3 of it.

Yep

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I responded to HemiEd with 'Isuzu' because he had said Toyota and GM had worked together. Its Isuzu and GM who are partners.

The pontiac vibe and the toyota matrix are the same vehicle too.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

The pontiac vibe and the toyota matrix are the same vehicle too.

I hadn't noticed that, but I agree. They are very similar, nearly identical.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That's why I got this one. Good gas mileage, only 80K (it's a 2002). It's an ES, so it has a lot of nice other features that I won't use (but my wife likes), the blue book was 11,200 and I only paid 6700 (or will pay...assuming).

Sounds like a really good deal. I was actually considering buying one of those. Test drove a couple of Escapes and Tributes. Ended up buying a Hyundai Sante Fe, though.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I hadn't noticed that, but I agree. They are very similar, nearly identical.

Nearly identical because they are the same vehicle. They are built on the same line. It was a joint venture between Toyota and GM. Similar to some of the Mazda/Ford vehicles.