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Old 09-14-2008, 07:47 PM  
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Name an area of the Chiefs Herm Edwards has improved since he took over?

QB = No

O-Line - no

Rb's - no

D-line - Hmmm...they have gotten younger, but overall have they really improved??

Linebackers - No

Defensive backs - perhaps??

special teams - no

punter - maybe??

place kicker - no



Not a very good track record.....

Why does this guy deserve to still have a job??
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:17 PM   #46
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Set it back?!? Set it back from what? We were a losing club when he came here and we are losing club after he left. How are we worse off because of him?
The Chiefs are what they are right now because of Vermeil's ridiculously bad drafts. Jared Allen was a complete blind luck pick. Take him out of the equation and what does this team have from those 5 drafts? Derrick Johnson and that's about it.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:17 PM   #47
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Herm sucks because he sucks. Not because of DV, his draft, the ghosts of DT or anyone else....

Some of you guys act as if the DV era should have never even existed....LOL

Not trying to defend DV too much, but damn, he was 20 times the coach Herm Edwards is or ever will be.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:18 PM   #48
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The Chiefs are what they are right now because of Vermeil's ridiculously bad drafts. Jared Allen was a complete blind luck pick. Take him out of the equation and what does this team have from those 5 drafts? Derrick Johnson and that's about it.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:19 PM   #49
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Thats true, but at least vermiel (on offense) knew how to judge talent

Defense or friends?
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Some of you guys act as if the DV era should have never even existed....LOL.
What if it didn't? Would we really miss one more playoff loss?
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:20 PM   #51
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What if it didn't? Would we really miss one more playoff loss?
Imagine the Gunther Cunningham era from 1999-2005!
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:23 PM   #52
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Herm sucks because he sucks. Not because of DV, his draft, the ghosts of DT or anyone else....

Some of you guys act as if the DV era should have never even existed....LOL

Not trying to defend DV too much, but damn, he was 20 times the coach Herm Edwards is or ever will be.
Coach, yes made his side great while not caring of the other half. He is the total coach..

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Old 09-14-2008, 09:24 PM   #53
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Before this 300 yard game against the fade, I would have said that the D is better than they were. And maybe they are, but even/if so, they're not going to be improved for long with the offense shooting for the new league record in 3 and outs. Between fatigue, injury, and flustration, the D is going to hit bottom as well, unless they get the O figured out.

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Old 09-14-2008, 09:25 PM   #54
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Herm sucks because he sucks. Not because of DV, his draft, the ghosts of DT or anyone else....

Some of you guys act as if the DV era should have never even existed....LOL

Not trying to defend DV too much, but damn, he was 20 times the coach Herm Edwards is or ever will be.
How's that?

DV had 1 playoff appearance and pile of shit drafts.

Herm has 1 playoff appearance and several good drafts.

20 times the coach?
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:26 PM   #55
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Damn it you guys are making me trying to defend Herm and I think the dude is an idiot but you cant say with a straight face that Vermeil caused this disaster of a franchise right now.
Uh, yes you can.

You can't build a championship team if after five years, two players are left on the roster.

This is a direct result of the Vermeil regime. There's no two ways about it.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:28 PM   #56
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Uh, yes you can.

You can't build a championship team if after five years, two players are left on the roster.

This is a direct result of the Vermeil regime. There's no two ways about it.
Shit I left out "didnt" in my post. I agree with this.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:29 PM   #57
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260 in running yards you mean?

210 in the 2nd half. That pisses me off toooooooo.

"but it is what it is"



Seriously I am pissed as hell after today but I also praised the n00bs and expect it to get worse before we win a SB......

Do you not?
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:30 PM   #58
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DV is somewhere laughing his wrinkly old ass off, right now. Take that Chiefs fans. You wanted a new defense, now you've got one.

At least, if you wanted to compete against DV's team, you had to bring your A game. When you play Herm's Chiefs, you can't even let your guys watch film. They might pick up some bad habits, plus the giggling gets completely out of control.

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20 times the coach?
1 Super Bowl win = 10 x's the coach.

Vermeil had 2 Super Bowl wins, therefore, he's 20 x's the coach.
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Old 09-14-2008, 09:31 PM   #60
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1 Super Bowl win = 10 x's the coach.

Vermeil had 2 Super Bowl wins, therefore, he's 20 x's the coach.
Check your math.
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