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Old 09-24-2008, 08:50 AM  
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KC Took over 4th place from Detroit Tigers

One more win ensures NOT having a 90 loss season.

This month has been incredible for the Royales with Cheese. They are 15-7 so far with 4 games left.

Very impressive ending to the season, and one that will be encouraging for the organization moving forward!

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Old 09-24-2008, 06:43 PM   #46
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on the other hand guillen has pretty much worn out his welcome with a couple of years left.....
I guess I'm in the minority but I like Guillen. Bad attitude or not, he's the only legitimate masher they have in the lineup. Probably the only guy that worries the opposing pitcher.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:45 PM   #47
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I guess I'm in the minority but I like Guillen. Bad attitude or not, he's the only legitimate masher they have in the lineup. Probably the only guy that worries the opposing pitcher.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:46 PM   #48
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It'll never happen...at least I think it won't.

The Cardinals are playing Cesar Izturis at SS and have no true leadoff man.

If they allow themselves to be outbid by the Royals for the best FA fit the team has seen in 10 years, they'll be crucified.

They'd damn well better be.
So?

If you made a list of the teams who could use a guy like Gil Meche, you'd be listing every team. The Royals went and got him when he was the best free agent pitcher on the market that year. They knew what they wanted, paid for it and got him.

Who is to say Furcal won't come here unless no one else is bidding?
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:51 PM   #49
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So?

If you made a list of the teams who could use a guy like Gil Meche, you'd be listing every team. The Royals went and got him when he was the best free agent pitcher on the market that year. They knew what they wanted, paid for it and got him.

Who is to say Furcal won't come here unless no one else is bidding?
I said 'outbid'. I never said he'd only come if nobody else bid.

The Cardinals have deeper pockets than the Royals and have pared about $45 million off their payroll, mostly in ineffective players.

The Royals can bid all they want, the Cardinals have the resources to outbid them and a brand new stadium built under the auspices that it would make us a player for big-time FAs. Like I said, nobody has fit the club better than Furcal in a looooong time. If this wasn't precisely the reason the new stadium was built, nothing is and the fans were lied to.

They absolutely cannot allow the Royals to outbid them. The fans should revolt if they do.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:55 PM   #50
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Wow Cardinal fan arrogance. I like our chances with Frucal. But am fine with Aviles and Callaspo.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:09 PM   #51
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If you made a list of the teams who could use a guy like Gil Meche, you'd be listing every team. The Royals went and got him when he was the best free agent pitcher on the market that year.
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:10 PM   #52
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:14 PM   #53
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Wow Cardinal fan arrogance. I like our chances with Frucal. But am fine with Aviles and Callaspo.
Explain the 'arrogance'.

Facts:

1) The Cardinals have a huge need at SS

2) The Cardinals have a huge need at leadoff

3) Furcal is an elite leadoff man and very good SS

4) The Cardinals will have more money to spend than the Royals, even if their payroll remains static due to freed up obligations to hurt or ineffective players

5) The Cardinals just convinced the city to give them a lot of money so they could "be players for impact free agents"

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So, in light of these facts, how would it be even remotely acceptable for the Cardinals to be outbid by the Royals? If a team with a larger budget like the Yankees outbid them, I'd be less upset. But if the Pirates, Rays, Royals or anyone else that simply doesn't have as much coin to spend outbids them, I'll be furious. I think it's even less likely due to the fact that the Royals getting him, an instate rival, would inflame passions in STL even more.

Unless you can point to some intangible, which would be nothing more than speculation and/or arrogance on your part, the current set of operative facts certainly suggests that losing Furcal to the Royals would be unacceptable to the Cardinals.
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I know there's a minimum for at bats but he's the same as MB so why no love.
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Milton Bradley has 407 at bats w/ a .324 percentage http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...?playerId=4245, Aviles has the same at bats w/ a .323 percentage http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/player...playerId=29145. Yet Aviles isn't mentioned with the league leaders now or has been this year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/...l&seasonType=2

I know there's a minimum for at bats but he's the same as MB so why no love.
the minimum is 3.1 plate appearances for every game your team has played. so at the end of the year it'd be 162 x 3.1 which comes to 502.2 ABs
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