KMBC 9 news: Gunther just accepted Detroit's Defensive co job

[wutamess]

Thanks for the link kc kid & Jamsec:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3848485

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Remember that the Colts invested nearly all their money on the offensive side of the ball. And, the Colts built a defense to compliment the offense.

The offense puts up big points quickly... run defense is not that important because MOST of the time, the opponent will be dropping back to pass.

Plus, they play eight games in a dome. It was all about speed... not power.

I just think Tampa 2, like any other defense, is whatever you make of it.

It is not my favorite defense. I actually like a 3-4 defense. I think that it makes the other team the most uncomfortable, and that is what I want.

That said, any defense can be effective if you have good players and the coaches are on the same page. JMO.

i think the tampa 2 aint done shit in years and i refuse to make excuses for the system.

it sucks. plain and simple.

[R&GHomer]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

Me too. I always liked Gun for his fire, but it was time for him go.

Me to. I wish him the best. He couldn't get it done here this last go around but there is no disputing his love for the Chiefs. Good luck Gun

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Gunther is the ultimate team guy. He won't ever call out his coach publicly. And, in reality, he will always work to make his head coach happy, even if it goes against what he believes in. But, the reality is that he was handcuffed more in 2005 than he was under Herm Edwards.

If you look at the games, and the plays that they ran, they were MUCH more conservative in 2005. It wasn't until after they were pretty much eliminated fromt he playoffs that DV let Gunther do his thing.

I don't expect you to agree with me. It is public perception that DV just let him do what he wants.

But, if you go back to the 2005 preseason, DV said that he was working with Gunther to remove the plays that were a little to aggressive and not 'fundamentally' sound.

DV used the 2004 season as his justification. I think it was a little unfair given the injuries to the linebacking corps in 2004. And, given that Gunther's defense is heavily dependent on linebacker 'fits', it was a recipe for dissaster.

Anyways, I think Gunther will do a good job in Detroit. I am sorry to see it not work out here.

You are so far off the mark. DV handcuffed Gun more than Herm?

[Fritz88]

KC just lost it's best DC ever.......****ING NOT

Good news.

[InChiefsHeaven]

LOve you too...I feel stupid...

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

How? I've heard a few people on here claim that but they have never ever said what exactly Gun said that would make you think he threw anyone under the bus.

I forget Gun's exact comments regarding Vermeil, but he certainly suggested Vermeil handcuffed him. Regarding Saunders, when Gailey was hired, Gailey made some comment about sometimes just running on 3rd and long and Gun commented about how that was music to his ears and would make his job easier.

Now, I don't think Gun throw those guys under the bus as much as Herm, but he did.

[Brock]

Gunther blathered about "taking their souls" and stupid crap like that. I wouldn't take anything he said seriously, he's a mentally ill person.

[Scorp]

How the hell can you be in charge of one of the worst defense in the league the last two years, and still get offered another job as defensive coordinator?

Utterly speechless.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Big Chief Homer

and please take Krumrie with you....

I wish that would happen.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Brock

Gunther blathered about "taking their souls" and stupid crap like that. I wouldn't take anything he said seriously, he's a mentally ill person.

Remember when he threatened everyone to come to his office and tell him that Kendrell Bell sucks?

[MOhillbilly]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

There is no way we are keeping Herm if we are letting all his guys go. No freaking way.

Just finishing up the details/contract on the new HC.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Remember when he threatened everyone to come to his office and tell him that Kendrell Bell sucks?

Remember when he showed a gochiefs video in an actual NFL defensive meeting in a desparate attempt to motivate?

[FringeNC]

Originally Posted by Brock

Gunther blathered about "taking their souls" and stupid crap like that. I wouldn't take anything he said seriously, he's a mentally ill person.

Good point.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

I forget Gun's exact comments regarding Vermeil, but he certainly suggested Vermeil handcuffed him. Regarding Saunders, when Gailey was hired, Gailey made some comment about sometimes just running on 3rd and long and Gun commented about how that was music to his ears and would make his job easier.

Now, I don't think Gun throw those guys under the bus as much as Herm, but he did.

Well first off, we don't know what happends on the sidelines, in the booth, what is being said over the headphones etc, if DV had final say and did in fact handcuff Gunther, and wouldnt let him do his thing, then I see no problem in Gunther admitting that. Doesn't surprise me actually because the defense under DV collectively stayed the same and never got better.

As far as the whole Chan thing, I wouldnt really call that throwing AS under the bus, because most of the time with AS, we would convert on 3rd n long.

[bkkcoh]

How bad does Gunther think KC is if he is willing to go to a team that was 0 - 16 last team?

Is he wanting to go there because anything would be an improvment? Too much pressure in KC with the higher expectations with Pioli in charge? Or could he see the writing on the wall for all of the coaches and wanted to flee the sinking coaching ship.