Chiefs Clark Judge loves Matt Cassel, and so should you. - Page 4

**The Bad Guy** · 11-30-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

There's no way to say this nicely, or sugar coat it, so...

I guess that this team, and their performance means more to than others than it does to you.

With that said, if I thought this team wasn't capable of making the playoffs or making a run, then yeah, I wouldn't be all that upset.

But I believe this team CAN, if they play to their potential.

So I'll be damned if I lower my expectations now, when the team should be raising theirs.

So calling this team awful in the off-season now gives you free reign to continue to complain if they don't meet your new lofty expectations? The same ones that didn't exist 13 weeks ago?

**DeezNutz** · 11-30-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That doesn't mean that because I mis-judged their abilities, that whatever happens from here on out is gravy because they've met/exceeded expectations.

We have to take advantage of a golden opportunity, and it will be a damn shame if we don't.

There are some similarities here to the arguments about the "evaluation year" in '09. Some were pissed at a wasted year, while some saw it was an unavoidable step.

Overall, I'm going to be happy about this team's progress in '10. If we piss away these final 5 games and an opportunity at the playoffs, however, I will be worried about next year, when our schedule will certainly be dramatically more difficult.

Oh, and SD isn't going to go away because they have a pretty important position on lock.

(not trying to start stuffs)

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-30-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We have to take advantage of a golden opportunity, and it will be a damn shame if we don't.

There are some similarities here to the arguments about the "evaluation year" in '09. Some were pissed at a wasted year, while some saw it was an unavoidable step.

Overall, I'm going to be happy about this team's progress in '10. If we piss away these final 5 games and an opportunity at the playoffs, however, I will be worried about next year, when our schedule will certainly be dramatically more difficult.

Oh, and SD isn't going to go away because they have a pretty important position on lock.

(not trying to start stuffs)

I'm quoting this post to show my agreement with its contents.

Nailed it, Deez.

**007** · 11-30-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

When I was making assertions that this team needed to be 8-8 or GTFO, many said these expectations were unreasonable.

Now, we have an opportunity to do much, much more and our expectations should accelerate, too.

That said, we've already met expectations of where this team should be in year 2, and we're almost certainly poised to exceed them.

Hell, I already consider this a successful season regardless of whether we make the playoffs or not. We have made huge strides. all they have to do now is back it up and improve on it.

**DeezNutz** · 11-30-2010, 05:21 PM

No question that this league is schedule driven.

Winning begets confidence, so this might off-set some of the challenges that are bound to occur next year. Plus, we're still allowed to participate in the draft, and I believe we're allowed to be involved in FA, possibly (with many variables here).

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-30-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

No question that this league is schedule driven.

Winning begets confidence, so this might off-set some of the challenges that are bound to occur next year. Plus, we're still allowed to participate in the draft, and I believe we're allowed to be involved in FA, possibly (with many variables here).

A rush backer, NT, center and WR (not to mention depth) should help to overcome any fear of the Chiefs "falling back to earth" because of the 2011 schedule.

**DeezNutz** · 11-30-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

A rush backer, NT, center and WR (not to mention depth) should help to overcome any fear of the Chiefs "falling back to earth" because of the 2011 schedule.

This looks like the type of Christmas list I sometimes assembled as a kid--far reaching.

ToxSocks · 11-30-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This looks like the type of Christmas list I sometimes assembled as a kid--far reaching.

How so?

These are obvious needs that can't and won't be overlooked. I don't think we'll get that NT that we're looking for, but im positive we'll see a OLB and a WR in the first 2 rounds.

I think we'll see:

OLB
WR
C
RB
S

For sure.

**DeezNutz** · 11-30-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

How so?

These are obvious needs that can't and won't be overlooked. I don't think we'll get that NT that we're looking for, but im positive we'll see a OLB and a WR in the first 2 rounds.

I think we'll see:

OLB
WR
C
RB
S

For sure.

How? Because those (NT and OLB) are extremely difficult to fill for a 34, with far more teams running this defense.

Can we get a complimentary WR (what happened to our HOF second rounder from '10? should there be another apology thread?) and a C? I should hope so.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-30-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This looks like the type of Christmas list I sometimes assembled as a kid--far reaching.

I suppose but I didn't think that the Chiefs be able to acquire a back like Jones, a center like Weigman, guards like Lilja and Asamoah, a tight end like Moeaki and safeties like Berry & Lewis (not to mention Arenas & McCluster) all in one offseason, either.

Every one of those guys have been difference makers.

**DeezNutz** · 11-30-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I suppose but I didn't think that the Chiefs be able to acquire a back like Jones, a center like Weigman, guards like Lilja and Asamoah, a tight end like Moeaki and safeties like Berry & Lewis (not to mention Arenas & McCluster) all in one offseason, either.

Every one of those guys have been difference makers.

True. Although I believe Jones and Weigman could easily be replaced. Moeaki has been the real surprise for me. Lewis was a great late pick, too, it seems.

Jury still out on round 2, unfortunately. But even if these picks drink from the dick sock, ultimately, the '10 draft appears to be a very strong one.

Hoover · 11-30-2010, 05:30 PM

I love how we all want the Chiefs to develop a young QB, and then when it actually starts to happen before our eyes we have a bunch of jag bags who bitch because well he sucked at the start of season, or sucked all of last season.

Face it, some of you would have never had the patience to coach guys like Payton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, and basically any other QB

The position takes time to learn in the NFL, and here we have Matt Cassel entering into the prime of his career and people want to bitch about it because they just hate to be proved wrong. I know, I know, its easy always being the guy who finds fault with everything.

Hammock Parties · 11-30-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

The position takes time to learn in the NFL, and here we have Matt Cassel entering into the prime of his career and people want to bitch about it because they just hate to be proved wrong.

People are bitching because they don't believe it's real.

They don't want to get their hopes up just to be disappointed.

It has nothing to do with wanting to be wrong or right. Believe me, I want to be wrong.

In the end though, I can't lose, because I was gaga over Matt after the trade.

kcxiv · 11-30-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

People are bitching because they don't believe it's real.

They don't want to get their hopes up just to be disappointed.

It has nothing to do with wanting to be wrong or right. Believe me, I want to be wrong.

In the end though, I can't lose, because I was gaga over Matt after the trade.

You go Gaga after everything right away. IN all honesty, your opinions here mean absolutely SHIT. you lost ALL credibility about anything a LONG ass time ago. your great at making videos' though. I give you an A+ for that.

Hammock Parties · 11-30-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

You go Gaga after everything right away.

Not true.

See the 2010 draft.

11-30-2010, 05:30 PM	#12
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2091821	I love how we all want the Chiefs to develop a young QB, and then when it actually starts to happen before our eyes we have a bunch of jag bags who bitch because well he sucked at the start of season, or sucked all of last season. Face it, some of you would have never had the patience to coach guys like Payton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, and basically any other QB The position takes time to learn in the NFL, and here we have Matt Cassel entering into the prime of his career and people want to bitch about it because they just hate to be proved wrong. I know, I know, its easy always being the guy who finds fault with everything.
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