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Old 01-17-2011, 02:03 PM   #1
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Old 01-17-2011, 02:28 PM   #3
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So...the Pats won 14 games this year, and lost in the playoffs...yeah...they suck. Bellicheck should be fired...


...what the hell? I'd kill for that kind of success. The Pats are the model for the rest of the NFL. The fact that they don't win the Superbowl every year is now a standard for whether or not the coach is any good...is...ridiculous.
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:26 PM   #4
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I love Bill Belichick. I think that pro athletes are rediculously overpaid, super consumed, rediculous distractions and open their mouths way too much. Old School; makes me like him more than ever. Greatest coach of all time
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I love Bill Belichick. I think that pro athletes are rediculously overpaid, super consumed, rediculous distractions and open their mouths way too much. Old School; makes me like him more than ever. Greatest coach of all time
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:36 PM   #6
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Yikes. Full of fail. First of all, the Pats are still a very good franchise. They made the Super Bowl only three years ago and went 14-2 this season. Second of all, the overachievers are the guys who carried the team that far. They're not the problem. The problem is that the Pats for years have been worried about plugging in talent gaps by drafting for need (like drafting Maroney and Chad Jackson) and bringing in shitty leaders like Adalius Thomas and Randy Moss.

The Pats had their first good draft in ages last year. If they have a good draft in 2011 with their gajillion picks, that team is going to be downright scary. What you fail to mention is that the team is kind of rebuilding. You just wouldn't know it, because Brady has the ability to make an elevate the play of an otherwise average team.
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:54 PM   #7
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I will bet the Patriots hate having the first round bye.
It has nothing to do with that.

They flat got beat by a better, more talented team.
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They flat got beat by a better, more talented team.
Wow it keeps happening.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:44 PM   #10
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It has nothing to do with that.

They flat got beat by a better, more talented team.
+1,000

oh yeah, Gronk is like glass. Hernadez is proving to be sub-par without him.

However, every team has a glass player - the key - it is better not to pay them a lot of money when their rookie contract expires.
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Old 01-17-2011, 08:59 PM   #11
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The Pats would likely be a lot better off if they hadn't run good players off the football team (Seymour, Moss), hadn't tried to outsmart theirselves with draft picks (passing up legit talent for a plethora of average 2nd round picks), plugged holes on the team with legit NFL talent (a RB tandem of Green-Ellis and Woodhead is a travesty with all the 1st day picks they've had lately), and filled coaching holes on the football team with legit NFL coaching talent (WTF is Matt Patricia? - Do they even have an OC?).

In summary, it's genius if it works but I see a clear trend since '07 of Belichik doing things completely different than any other NFL team, completely different than he used to, and thus far the trend has been negative where it counts. The media wants to crown Belichik king for what he did from 2000-2004, and deservedly so, but the modus operandi of the football team was considerably different then. Al Davis used to be pretty good too before he went batshit crazy.
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The Pats would likely be a lot better off if they hadn't run good players off the football team (Seymour, Moss), hadn't tried to outsmart theirselves with draft picks (passing up legit talent for a plethora of average 2nd round picks), plugged holes on the team with legit NFL talent (a RB tandem of Green-Ellis and Woodhead is a travesty with all the 1st day picks they've had lately), and filled coaching holes on the football team with legit NFL coaching talent (WTF is Matt Patricia? - Do they even have an OC?).

In summary, it's genius if it works but I see a clear trend since '07 of Belichik doing things completely different than any other NFL team, completely different than he used to, and thus far the trend has been negative where it counts. The media wants to crown Belichik king for what he did from 2000-2004, and deservedly so, but the modus operandi of the football team was considerably different then. Al Davis used to be pretty good too before he went batshit crazy.
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The Pats would likely be a lot better off if they hadn't run good players off the football team (Seymour, Moss), hadn't tried to outsmart theirselves with draft picks (passing up legit talent for a plethora of average 2nd round picks), plugged holes on the team with legit NFL talent (a RB tandem of Green-Ellis and Woodhead is a travesty with all the 1st day picks they've had lately), and filled coaching holes on the football team with legit NFL coaching talent (WTF is Matt Patricia? - Do they even have an OC?).

In summary, it's genius if it works but I see a clear trend since '07 of Belichik doing things completely different than any other NFL team, completely different than he used to, and thus far the trend has been negative where it counts. The media wants to crown Belichik king for what he did from 2000-2004, and deservedly so, but the modus operandi of the football team was considerably different then. Al Davis used to be pretty good too before he went batshit crazy.
Actually, I thought that the past 5 years or so, Bellichick built an inconsistent winner by doing everything they didn't do in 2000-2004. Ironically, it's some of the same stuff you're criticizing him for. I thought 2010 was a return to the Patriot Way and it started with cutting Adalius and Randy Moss.

I don't think he's as good as he used to be. But 2010 seems like a year when they're bringing everything back on track.
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The Pats would likely be a lot better off if they hadn't run good players off the football team (Seymour, Moss), hadn't tried to outsmart theirselves with draft picks (passing up legit talent for a plethora of average 2nd round picks), plugged holes on the team with legit NFL talent (a RB tandem of Green-Ellis and Woodhead is a travesty with all the 1st day picks they've had lately), and filled coaching holes on the football team with legit NFL coaching talent (WTF is Matt Patricia? - Do they even have an OC?).

In summary, it's genius if it works but I see a clear trend since '07 of Belichik doing things completely different than any other NFL team, completely different than he used to, and thus far the trend has been negative where it counts. The media wants to crown Belichik king for what he did from 2000-2004, and deservedly so, but the modus operandi of the football team was considerably different then. Al Davis used to be pretty good too before he went batshit crazy.
I watched a report on the Patriots (maybe Inside the NFL) where the commentator mentioned that the Patriots don't believe in paying rookies more than the best stars (usually the highest paid players) on the team. Whether or not you agree with this approach I would like to think that he is setting the example for how the NFL should be run as a whole. Rookies who have never proven themselves should not make more than the current best players on the team. Belicheck then relies on coaching to coach up the players that he does get in the later rounds. This puts more pressure on BB but you can't help but give him the utmost respect if this report were true. Players who play for him probably do as well considering they know they will be respected by the rookies.
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A lot of people keep saying stuff about the Patriots not winning a title since Spygate. That is really irrelevant. Tom Brady is still one of the best ever, so is Bellichick. They were a dynasty, I don't think Spygate was anything tbh. But the one thing that I do think is that with that loss yesterday Bellichick is officially never going to be able to rightfully have his name put along side the likes of Lombardi/Walsh/Knoll. The recent playoff record is something that clearly separates them, especially with a couple of the recent losses being home games.
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