My official endorsement for the 21st overall pick.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by milkman

Your arguing what you want to do.

I'm telling you that I don't give a rat's ass what you want to do.

I hope you see the silliness in trying to convince a thread starter that you don't care about his thread in 10 posts.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I hope you see the silliness in trying to convince a thread starter that you don't care about his thread in 10 posts.

That's not what I said.

I'm saying rather than looking at a player that doesn't fit what Crennel, take another look and find someone that you like at 21 that does fit.

You have some good draft posts, and I'm more interested in who you would like that does fit.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by milkman

That's not what I said.

I'm saying rather than looking at a player that doesn't fit what Crennel, take another look and find someone that you like at 21 that does fit.

You have some good draft posts, and I'm more interested in who you would like that does fit.

That's fair.

[Hammock Parties]

Vermiel's teams could certainly open it up offensively, and Marty's teams could most definitely get to the quarterback.

And none of those teams could put it all together, which is my entire point.

And as I stated, the Chiefs were #10 in the league in sacking the opposing quarterback. That's not sucking. Thats being in the top 1/3 of the entire league.

We had one legit pass rusher last year and it was our downfall. I don't care about stats and if you actually watched the games, neither would you.

There is no way an OT has a larger impact on our football team than Justin Houston or a WR. None whatsoever.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by ClayWhit

And none of those teams could put it all together, which is my entire point.

We had one legit pass rusher last year and it was our downfall. I don't care about stats and if you actually watched the games, neither would you.

There is no way an OT has a larger impact on our football team than Justin Houston or a WR. None whatsoever.

Do you really think that if we had a WR or Houston that we would have beat the Ravens? Or the Raiders in the last game of the regular season?

Really?

Versus a competent player at offensive tackle?

Really?

And you speak of actually watching the games?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Do you really think that if we had a WR or Houston that we would have beat the Ravens? Or the Raiders in the last game of the regular season?

Really?

Versus a competent player at offensive tackle?

Really?

And you speak of actually watching the games?

Why do the Chiefs have to beat a team that kicked their ass to consider 1 player a team improvement.

Do you really think a slight upgrade at T is going to beat the Ravens?

Really?

Versus another competent WR?

Really?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Why do the Chiefs have to beat a team that kicked their ass to consider 1 player a team improvement.

Because that's what C.E. implied. That a lack of a second pass rusher or another wide receiver was the Chiefs downfall in 2010.

If you don't like what was offered, you should whine and throw your little hissy fit in his direction.

Do you really think a slight upgrade at T is going to beat the Ravens?

Really?

Nope.

Versus another competent WR?

Really?

In a hypothetical comparison of a single player addition, you bet.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Do you really think that if we had a WR or Houston that we would have beat the Ravens?

I think if we actually had a passing game, yes, we would have beaten the Ravens, especially if we also had another pass rusher. We need to build towards those goals. We need to build a passing game that ranks in the top half of the league or we are going nowhere.

Cassel had plenty of time to throw the ball against Baltimore but you want to draft an OT. You're a genious.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by ClayWhit

We had one legit pass rusher last year and it was our downfall. I don't care about stats and if you actually watched the games, neither would you.

There is no way an OT has a larger impact on our football team than Justin Houston or a WR. None whatsoever.

How often did Crennel rush Vrabel or Studebaker??

[HighChief]

I love kerrigan. But the more and more i think about it 1) He just isnt a real good fit for us and 2) He will be gone by 21 anyway.

I think we all can agree that the only way we beat the ravens and pats and colts is to get more depth at all positions. We have a good starting unit but we need depth to win in january.

As of right now i think we will go with someone that will make us go WTF ha ha. I think Phil Taylor is the guy this year but who knows? We need a NT and these guys take a couple of years to come into their own.

From what i remember of the playoff game was Cassle just sitting there all day waiting for something to open up. Then he had to force it and threw some bad passes. WR AND NT is a must upgrade imho

How the F did bowe not make a single catch in that game? Still pisses me off

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by HighChief

I think we all can agree that the only way we beat the ravens and pats and colts is to get more depth at all positions. We have a good starting unit but we need depth to win in january.

I completely disagree. KC needs starters - OLB, ILB, C, RT, WR2, WR3, NT and arguably DE and HB.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I completely disagree. KC needs starters - OLB, ILB, C, RT, WR2, WR3, NT and arguably DE and HB.

I'd add LT and QB to that list as well. Albert was horrible last season and I wish that people would stop giving him a free pass just because he's young and he was a first rounder. He's had three years of starting to figure it out and it's not happening. He is a liability at the second most important position on the offensive side of the ball. And Cassel isn't good. He's inaccurate on his throws, has terrible pocket presence and doesn't see the field/go through his progressions at an NFL QB level.

I also think that Belcher was quite effective at MLB, Johnson had an excellent season (finally) and that Mays and particularly Williams were good backups at the MLB/ILB spots respectfully. The two inside LB spots along with the defensive backfield are the least of this teams concerns. Getting a defensive line that would keep the guards from getting out to the second level would help the linebackers even more.

Personally, I think that the coaching staff, particularly Crennel, did wonders last year.

They were also aided by a schedule that perfectly played to the strengths of the 2010 Chiefs team. (Bad pass rushing teams and team that don't defend the run very well.)

Next season, the schedule won't be as fortunate and I think that we'll get a better understanding of how truly ready we are to be a playoff team and where our greatest needs are from a roster perspective.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'd add LT and QB to that list as well. Albert was horrible last season and I wish that people would stop giving him a free pass just because he's young and he was a first rounder. He's had three years of starting to figure it out and it's not happening. He is a liability at the second most important position on the offensive side of the ball. And Cassel isn't good. He's inaccurate on his throws, has terrible pocket presence and doesn't see the field/go through his progressions at an NFL QB level.

I also think that Belcher was quite effective at MLB and that Mays and particularly Williams were good backups at the MLB/ILB spots respectfully.

Personally, I think that the coaching staff, particularly Crennel, did wonders last year.

They were also aided by a schedule that perfectly played to the strengths of the 2010 Chiefs team. (Bad pass rushing teams and team that don't defend the run very well.)

Next season, the schedule won't be as fortunate and I think that we'll get a better understanding of how truly ready we are to be a playoff team and where our greatest needs are from a roster perspective.

Albert wasn't good, but he wasn't horrible either.

Do you not understand that you had little to no credibility before you posted your evaluation of Asomoah's play at LT, and lost whatever credibility you might have had then.

No one is paying any attention to your dumb ass.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by milkman

Albert wasn't good, but he wasn't horrible either.

Do you not understand that you had little to no credibility before you posted your evaluation of Asomoah's play at LT, and lost whatever credibility you might have had then.

No one is paying any attention to your dumb ass.

No credibility because I think Albert isn't a starting left tackle based on his level of play over the last three years?

Whatever you say Mr. Super Talent Evaluator that continued to preach that the guy was "ASCENDING."

Let's see...I think Albert isn't a good left tackle and you think he's ascending. And that gives me no credibility and you have placed yourself on the throne of credibility, holding the scepter of football knowledge. Is that correct?

Welcome to Chiefs Planet, where everyday is opposite day.

And apparently, you are paying attention to me. Otherwise, you wouldn't have responded.

Ascending.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I completely disagree. KC needs starters - OLB, ILB, C, RT, WR2, WR3, NT and arguably DE and HB.

I would say OLB, C, RT, WR2 and NT. The rest would be luxury moves. And I'd fill as many of them as I can before the draft so we can focus on drafting for talent rather than position.