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Old 04-21-2011, 10:30 PM   #1
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Your post is hilarious, Zooks. It's like you think all Chiefs fans here had no ****ing clue what being a Chiefs fan was like prior to 2008
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:45 PM   #2
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Your post is hilarious, Zooks. It's like you think all Chiefs fans here had no ****ing clue what being a Chiefs fan was like prior to 2008
Most don't. You get spoiled after picking so high for a while.

IMO - It'll be slim pickins at 21 this year, (more so than other years). If I were Pioli I'd try to trade down to get a few more reasonable cogs to add to the machine rather than pinning my hopes one a sigular player to have any type of major impact.
I also don't understand why so many posters want a D-Linemen in the 1st. Why? Once Tyson Jackson stops acting like Larry English he'll be a dominant 3-4 end, Dorsey's finally making the adjustment. What more do you need other than a tub of lard to play NT and lay on the ground to clog lanes during running plays? You guys can go to OK Joe's on any Wednesday night to find a guy like that.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:52 PM   #3
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Most don't. You get spoiled after picking so high for a while.

IMO - It'll be slim pickins at 21 this year, (more so than other years). If I were Pioli I'd try to trade down to get a few more reasonable cogs to add to the machine rather than pinning my hopes one a sigular player to have any type of major impact.
I also don't understand why so many posters want a D-Linemen in the 1st. Why? Once Tyson Jackson stops acting like Larry English he'll be a dominant 3-4 end, Dorsey's finally making the adjustment. What more do you need other than a tub of lard to play NT and lay on the ground to clog lanes during running plays? You guys can go to OK Joe's on any Wednesday night to find a guy like that.
Most Chiefs fans are meh on Phil Taylor. I personally will be upset if the Chiefs take him. This "obsession" you talk about with Chiefs fans when it comes to 1st round defensive linemen doesn't really exist
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:59 PM   #4
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Other than Colin Kaepernick I haven't really heard any other options other than D-Linemen from the Planet.
What would you do If you were GM?
(BTW - I'm going to bed, Nice talking to you SNR. I look forward to your response)
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:09 PM   #5
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Other than Colin Kaepernick I haven't really heard any other options other than D-Linemen from the Planet.
What would you do If you were GM?
(BTW - I'm going to bed, Nice talking to you SNR. I look forward to your response)
Offensive line is the popular option this year. I'm all for Costanzo, Carimi, or Sherrod. If there's a center the Chiefs REALLY like, I'll grumble about it, but I won't be upset.

At WR, Jon Baldwin would be great, but there's no way the Chiefs take him. I'm so high on Leonard Hankerson, that I think the value is there for him to be taken at #21. I see all-star when I watch him play and see how much he improved incrementally throughout his college career. That combined with his pretty good physical gifts make me want the Chiefs to take him... whether it's at 21 or later.

I'm not too high on CB or LB. Ayers doesn't look good to me. Reed is iffy. If a guy like Aldon Smith dropped I'd like to see us snatch him up, but I doubt he will be there.

And at QB I like Ponder and Dalton. Kaepernick is a 2nd rounder and later to me, and I doubt the Chiefs will take him. But if he IS drafted with our first rounder, I'm going to be patient with him. I have to be. He's a first round ****ing QB, which hasn't been seen by this team since 1983
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:29 PM   #6
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:46 PM   #7
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:56 PM   #8
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You know, with the addition of one character, it looks almost like the chiefs could draft Jason Whitlock.

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Old 04-22-2011, 12:14 AM   #9
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You know, with the addition of one character, it looks almost like the chiefs could draft Jason Whitlock.
That's actually kcboob's fupa

(And I don't think that would be a good fit for the Chiefs)
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:41 AM   #10
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Drafting a QB in the 1st would excite me more than any other pick, because it would say to the world we're looking to improve our JV QB position.

I'm hoping we get a pass rusher or a WR with a high pick, since the QB thing won't happen.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:56 AM   #11
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Anyone Sacoshit wants us to draft would upset me, and I haven't even looked at his draft threads this season.

I just assume he's being an idiot still.
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Old 04-22-2011, 03:08 PM   #12
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Costanzo would piss me off as our first rounder.

He gets beat is pass protection by the same things Albert does (albeit Albert does so against NFL talent, both can be beat by speed rushers that have good strength...not many lts can stop that combination consistently) and isn't anywhere near as good as a run blocker. IMO Albert is a borderline elite run blocker while Costanzo gets NO push in the run game.

If it's not a huge upgrade to an adequate LT, what the point in spending a first there when we can significantly upgrade a need position elsewhere?

Give it up
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:13 AM   #13
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Costanzo would piss me off as our first rounder.

He gets beat is pass protection by the same things Albert does (albeit Albert does so against NFL talent, both can be beat by speed rushers that have good strength...not many lts can stop that combination consistently) and isn't anywhere near as good as a run blocker. IMO Albert is a borderline elite run blocker while Costanzo gets NO push in the run game.

If it's not a huge upgrade to an adequate LT, what the point in spending a first there when we can significantly upgrade a need position elsewhere?

Give it up
Nope.

Albert is nowhere near elite as a run blocker. He's a lunger that gets completely lost at the second level. He really struggles to find a target on sweeps and end arounds, which is a real detriment to this particular running attack - at least with Charles.

Honestly, it's his run blocking that cheeses me off more than anything. He's a phone booth blocker that tries to punch his guy of base and gets lost once the play goes into space. His footwork sucks and he has absolutely no kick step whatsoever. The guy is a guard.

He also struggles with pass rushers that can stunt a quick inside move. He's okay with bull rushers.

Castonzo has very good footwork and is capable of dealing with speed rushers. He also adjusts extremely well to game time situations and will modify his blocking depending upon the guy he faces right then and there. He also plays nasty and goes past the whistle in finishing blocks. He seals the edge extremely well.

He does struggle against power rushers somewhat, but that's not that big of a deal in the zone system that Haley runs.
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Nope.

Albert is nowhere near elite as a run blocker. He's a lunger that gets completely lost at the second level. He really struggles to find a target on sweeps and end arounds, which is a real detriment to this particular running attack - at least with Charles.

Honestly, it's his run blocking that cheeses me off more than anything. He's a phone booth blocker that tries to punch his guy of base and gets lost once the play goes into space. His footwork sucks and he has absolutely no kick step whatsoever. The guy is a guard.

He also struggles with pass rushers that can stunt a quick inside move. He's okay with bull rushers.

Castonzo has very good footwork and is capable of dealing with speed rushers. He also adjusts extremely well to game time situations and will modify his blocking depending upon the guy he faces right then and there. He also plays nasty and goes past the whistle in finishing blocks. He seals the edge extremely well.

He does struggle against power rushers somewhat, but that's not that big of a deal in the zone system that Haley runs.
Your takes continue to be comical.

We are the #1 rushing team in the NFL (going to the left side) since Albert has been our LT. That, to me, makes him borderline elite at worst and truly elite at best. I can dig up the source for that if you like as it has been posted here multiple times. Just more proof that you either:

a) dont watch the games

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b) are so jaded while you watch them that you have no clue what you are watching.

Costanzo isnt a run blocker at all and we are a running team until Cassel shows the ability to change that (or someone else does, if given a chance) and at best he is a marginal upgrade as a pass blocker.

If Brandon Albert and Anthony Costanzo were in the same draft, Albert would almost assuredly be the one taken first.

He is such a good pass blocker...



Sure looks like he did a superb job of "sealing the edge" in that video... wasnt that what you called it when Okung got pushed right into the quarterback last year?

Sealing the ****ing edge...gimme a break.

Dude lunged, extended himself and still got beat repeatedly by about every player he faced of similar ability to Quinn...that was just one of the games I saw him get dominated with my own eyes and knew there had to be a video of it floating around and low and behold...
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Your takes continue to be comical.

We are the #1 rushing team in the NFL (going to the left side) since Albert has been our LT. That, to me, makes him borderline elite at worst and truly elite at best. I can dig up the source for that if you like as it has been posted here multiple times. Just more proof that you either:

a) dont watch the games

or

b) are so jaded while you watch them that you have no clue what you are watching.

Costanzo isnt a run blocker at all and we are a running team until Cassel shows the ability to change that (or someone else does, if given a chance) and at best he is a marginal upgrade as a pass blocker.

If Brandon Albert and Anthony Costanzo were in the same draft, Albert would almost assuredly be the one taken first.

He is such a good pass blocker...



Sure looks like he did a superb job of "sealing the edge" in that video... wasnt that what you called it when Okung got pushed right into the quarterback last year?

Sealing the ****ing edge...gimme a break.

Dude lunged, extended himself and still got beat repeatedly by about every player he faced of similar ability to Quinn...that was just one of the games I saw him get dominated with my own eyes and knew there had to be a video of it floating around and low and behold...
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