Chiefs Blame Haley For Cassel’s Struggles - Page 4

oRYMANo · 09-18-2011, 10:33 PM

I don't know how many times ive seen the PA Boot to Pope! I think Haley has called 3 plays all year. Sack, Fumble, Interception. Im still waiting to see all 3 occur at the same time.

kcxiv · 09-18-2011, 10:34 PM

Whats happening to this team sucks and Haley does deserve some blame, but lets be serious. Haley stood no chance when he was forced to play and start Cassel. There is no fixing something that was never meant to work.

lol The more Cassel plays like shit the more it hink Weiss leaving had to do with him not being able to "Fix" (Charlies words) the QB. Haley has pretty much pointed to Cassel sucking time and time again by saying we will be a run team first blah blah. Its all been there, most of us fail to see it. Haley cursing Cassel. Cassel flipping off the fans (with proof). Play calling being so obvious they dont want Cassel to be throwing the ball.

WV · 09-18-2011, 11:11 PM

Stop linking that comic strip of a website.

ChiefsCountry · 09-18-2011, 11:24 PM

Cassel has only beat one playoff team during his time as a starter in the NFL that didn't come from the NFC West. That was the fluke Miami team of 2008. He is just a product of playing shitty teams mainly NFC and AFC West teams.

**petegz28** · 09-19-2011, 05:17 AM

One has to wonder WHY Haley is yelling at Cassel so much??? It wouldn't have anything with how Caseel performs I'm sure.

memyselfI · 09-19-2011, 06:29 AM

I would only agree as far as Haley seems to be the source of many of the Chiefs troubles. His track record is not good. He has alienated or fired many people due to his personal inabilities to play nice thereby creating enemies. His finger pointing and pouting and acting 'all that' when he had not won a damn thing really rubbed people the wrong way. I think he's a mental case that deserves to be in a hospital somewhere and not on the sidelines.

With that said, Cassel has not played well and has stunk up the joint. But, does he have a reputation like Haley's? Does he have lots of enemies and people wanting to punk him (outside of KC, that is) like Haley does?

I think Cassel is a decent serviceable QB being ruined by his HC. Haley is ruining much of the team but Cassel is the most obvious glaring example.

movinbones · 09-19-2011, 07:02 AM

That may have been the worst article I have ever read.

Seriously???? 2 INT hit receivers SQUARE in the hands?? A quick slant that hits the WR in the face instead of where he can reach and make a catch with his hands and a pass that is high and behind in the NFL equals INT more times than not.

HE IS NOT ACCURATE... Get off his cock!!!!!

cookster50 · 09-19-2011, 07:08 AM

So the author is saying that Cassel has a couple of plays he is capable of making and Weis would call those plays, but Haley refuses to call those same plays and instead calls plays that Cassel has no shot at making? Got it!

**Dave Lane** · 09-19-2011, 07:19 AM

How much lead paint did Nick eat as a child? Seriously this makes crazy people think he's off his chump.

Molitoth · 09-19-2011, 09:17 AM

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2. Why does everyone think he is a lock to be a great NFL QB? From my years of watching the draft I've learned that no one is a lock, no matter how good they were in college. Remember Todd Blackledge? Ryan Leaf? Rick Mirer? And a whole bunch more? Why is Luck different?

Nobody is a lock to be great, and I think people understand that... although I think this fanbase wants to at least try through the draft. This organization has brought in failure QB's through Free Agency for almost 2 decades now (Minus Trent Green who was decent).

lcarus · 09-19-2011, 09:21 AM

We have a coach that drove off an apparently genius offensive coach. After we lost Weis, this offense has been dreadful. We also have a coach/GM that our opponents have it out for. We've played 2 games and the opposing teams really wanted to stick it to us. For whatever reason. I don't want my team represented like that. We have enough issues already, we don't need teams circling us on their schedule.

jd1020 · 09-19-2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

We have a coach that drove off an apparently genius offensive coach. After we lost Weis, this offense has been dreadful. We also have a coach/GM that our opponents have it out for. We've played 2 games and the opposing teams really wanted to stick it to us. For whatever reason. I don't want my team represented like that. We have enough issues already, we don't need teams circling us on their schedule.

I absolutely want people circling us on their schedule. That means one thing... that we are good. You think teams arent circling the Patriots, Packers, Steelers, or Saints on their schedule?

lcarus · 09-19-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I absolutely want people circling us on their schedule. That means one thing... that we are good. You think teams arent circling the Patriots, Packers, Steelers, or Saints on their schedule?

Yeah that's not at all what I meant. They aren't circling us because we're good. They're circling us because they have grudges against our coach and GM.

Molitoth · 09-19-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

We have a coach that drove off an apparently genius offensive coach. After we lost Weis, this offense has been dreadful. We also have a coach/GM that our opponents have it out for. We've played 2 games and the opposing teams really wanted to stick it to us. For whatever reason. I don't want my team represented like that. We have enough issues already, we don't need teams circling us on their schedule.

Nobody really knows if Haley "drove off" Weis. It's all media speculation, so just stop. Weis was stuck with Cassel, and has already won super bowls.... I would want to go coach my kid also.

Teams have it "out for us"??? lol. Every team should have it out for other teams. I wish we "had it out" for the fucking Bills and Lions.

jd1020 · 09-19-2011, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Nobody really knows if Haley "drove off" Weis. It's all media speculation, so just stop. Weis was stuck with Cassel, and has already won super bowls.... I would want to go coach my kid also.

Teams have it "out for us"??? lol. Every team should have it out for other teams. I wish we "had it out" for the fucking Bills and Lions.

I dont think its speculation. The dude wanted control. Haley doesnt give it.

09-18-2011, 10:33 PM	#1
oRYMANo Starter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Oklahoma Casino cash: $10004900	I don't know how many times ive seen the PA Boot to Pope! I think Haley has called 3 plays all year. Sack, Fumble, Interception. Im still waiting to see all 3 occur at the same time.
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09-18-2011, 10:34 PM	#2
kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	Whats happening to this team sucks and Haley does deserve some blame, but lets be serious. Haley stood no chance when he was forced to play and start Cassel. There is no fixing something that was never meant to work. lol The more Cassel plays like shit the more it hink Weiss leaving had to do with him not being able to "Fix" (Charlies words) the QB. Haley has pretty much pointed to Cassel sucking time and time again by saying we will be a run team first blah blah. Its all been there, most of us fail to see it. Haley cursing Cassel. Cassel flipping off the fans (with proof). Play calling being so obvious they dont want Cassel to be throwing the ball.
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09-18-2011, 11:11 PM	#3
WV Veteran Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In the Holler Casino cash: $10004950	Stop linking that comic strip of a website.
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09-18-2011, 11:24 PM	#4
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1371248	Cassel has only beat one playoff team during his time as a starter in the NFL that didn't come from the NFC West. That was the fluke Miami team of 2008. He is just a product of playing shitty teams mainly NFC and AFC West teams.
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09-19-2011, 05:17 AM	#5
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-885873	One has to wonder WHY Haley is yelling at Cassel so much??? It wouldn't have anything with how Caseel performs I'm sure.
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09-19-2011, 06:29 AM	#6
memyselfI CHANGEd your mind yet???? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lunatics Anonymous Casino cash: $10005234	I would only agree as far as Haley seems to be the source of many of the Chiefs troubles. His track record is not good. He has alienated or fired many people due to his personal inabilities to play nice thereby creating enemies. His finger pointing and pouting and acting 'all that' when he had not won a damn thing really rubbed people the wrong way. I think he's a mental case that deserves to be in a hospital somewhere and not on the sidelines. With that said, Cassel has not played well and has stunk up the joint. But, does he have a reputation like Haley's? Does he have lots of enemies and people wanting to punk him (outside of KC, that is) like Haley does? I think Cassel is a decent serviceable QB being ruined by his HC. Haley is ruining much of the team but Cassel is the most obvious glaring example. __________________ Meet the new boss same as the old boss. BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid." "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03
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09-19-2011, 07:02 AM	#7
movinbones Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: O Fallon,MO Casino cash: $9994900	That may have been the worst article I have ever read. Seriously???? 2 INT hit receivers SQUARE in the hands?? A quick slant that hits the WR in the face instead of where he can reach and make a catch with his hands and a pass that is high and behind in the NFL equals INT more times than not. HE IS NOT ACCURATE... Get off his cock!!!!!
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09-19-2011, 07:08 AM	#8
cookster50 Supreme Commander of My House Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $83622	So the author is saying that Cassel has a couple of plays he is capable of making and Weis would call those plays, but Haley refuses to call those same plays and instead calls plays that Cassel has no shot at making? Got it!
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09-19-2011, 07:19 AM	#9
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09-19-2011, 09:21 AM	#11
lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1729887	We have a coach that drove off an apparently genius offensive coach. After we lost Weis, this offense has been dreadful. We also have a coach/GM that our opponents have it out for. We've played 2 games and the opposing teams really wanted to stick it to us. For whatever reason. I don't want my team represented like that. We have enough issues already, we don't need teams circling us on their schedule.
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