QBs other than Luck - Page 4

BryanBusby · 10-14-2011, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Kaepernick is not starting because they don't need him to start right now.

Kapernick is not starting because he was nowhere near ready to start. Alex Smith play just made sitting Kapernick on the bench until he's ready an easier decision.

I got a few opportunities to see him play in the preseason. Saw some good things from him, but he clearly wasn't used to the NFL speed yet.

aturnis · 10-15-2011, 08:56 PM

JD proved again in this thread the same thing he proves every time he talks about QB's, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

jd1020 · 10-16-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

JD proved again in this thread the same thing he proves every time he talks about QB's, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Why don't you tell me what I missed then, wizard of QB knowledge. Must be easy to look smart without actually saying anything.

**Buehler445** · 10-19-2011, 08:02 PM

Where do you guys see Russell Wilson going? The only game I saw was him absolutely abusing Nebraska.

Does he have the goods?

suds79 · 10-20-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Where do you guys see Russell Wilson going? The only game I saw was him absolutely abusing Nebraska.

Does he have the goods?

I watched that game. He's a really good college player.

Problem is that he's 5'11. I think a Seneca Wallace is about the best you can hope for.

Right or wrong, he won't ever be considering starting material by NFL standards.

O.city · 10-21-2011, 06:57 PM

This thread can be capped in a few words.

QB's other than Luck? Well in my opinion there are none. When you have a chance to get a once ina lifetime prospect like Luck....go all in. Give whoever whatever to get that pick.

suds79 · 10-21-2011, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

This thread can be capped in a few words.

QB's other than Luck? Well in my opinion there are none. When you have a chance to get a once ina lifetime prospect like Luck....go all in. Give whoever whatever to get that pick.

Not much you can do if that team picking first has it made up in their mind to take Luck & have him QB their team for the next 15 years.

I think it's really as simple as this. Luck is going #1 and that team is not going to trade away his rights.

Might as well let that dream die.

O.city · 10-22-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79

Not much you can do if that team picking first has it made up in their mind to take Luck & have him QB their team for the next 15 years.

I think it's really as simple as this. Luck is going #1 and that team is not going to trade away his rights.

Might as well let that dream die.

I think you are right, however depending on the team it could be different. I'm not sold the Panthers or Rams would for sure draft him. THey would def listen to offers.

Nightfyre · 10-22-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think you are right, however depending on the team it could be different. I'm not sold the Panthers or Rams would for sure draft him. THey would def listen to offers.

I still think the Colts would have to consider trading it.

Hypothetical:
Draft Order
1 Colts
2 Broncos
3 Chiefs

Chiefs offer #3 and Bowe to swap picks with Colts.

1. Chiefs (thru Colts) Luck
2. Broncos ?????
3. Colts (thru Chiefs) Matt Kalil

Colts wind up with Kalil and Bowe to help manning out, we end up with luck.

jd1020 · 10-22-2011, 08:30 PM

Ya because Bowe would definitely make the difference.

Manning turns every receiver he gets into a pro bowler.

Can we please stop talking about Luck in a thread dedicated to QB's other than Luck. Nevermind the fact that we aren't getting Luck.

aturnis · 10-22-2011, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I still think the Colts would have to consider trading it.

Hypothetical:
Draft Order
1 Colts
2 Broncos
3 Chiefs

Chiefs offer #3 and Bowe to swap picks with Colts.

1. Chiefs (thru Colts) Luck
2. Broncos ?????
3. Colts (thru Chiefs) Matt Kalil

Colts wind up with Kalil and Bowe to help manning out, we end up with luck.

Why exactly would the Colts want Bowe? I think they're good on the WR front...

Why wouldn't the Colts want another 15 straight years of winning? Think they'll say, I "Nope, we're good, we had our success. When Peyton retires, we'll just go back to years of mediocrity, it's cool".

suds79 · 10-24-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I still think the Colts would have to consider trading it.

I just can't see this. Peyton Manning is nearing the end of his career and he's out this year with a neck injury.

Soot I'm not sure they're not taking specifically to get Luck.

I think there's a 0% chance they deal Luck should the Colts get #1. Zero.

They'd sit Luck for a year or move Peyton. Hey if Joe Montana can end up somewhere else at the end of his career, anybody can.

aturnis · 10-22-2011, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I think you are right, however depending on the team it could be different. I'm not sold the Panthers or Rams would for sure draft him. THey would def listen to offers.

The only team who would consider trading the pick is the Rams. The Panthers WILL NOT get that pick.

aturnis · 10-25-2011, 01:49 AM

Sorry Nightfyre, you're delusional. There's no guarantee that Manning won't take a hit on that neck of his and be done for good next year. No guarantee how long he's got left. The Colts will NOT pass up an opportunity for greatness for another decade and a half. They more than any other franchise understand the importance of the QB under center. Without Peyton, they are nothing. They will not mortage out the next 15 yrs. of their franchise for a shot in the next few. Incredibly short sighted and that's not the way the Colt do business.

Nightfyre · 10-25-2011, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Sorry Nightfyre, you're delusional. There's no guarantee that Manning won't take a hit on that neck of his and be done for good next year. No guarantee how long he's got left. The Colts will NOT pass up an opportunity for greatness for another decade and a half. They more than any other franchise understand the importance of the QB under center. Without Peyton, they are nothing. They will not mortage out the next 15 yrs. of their franchise for a shot in the next few. Incredibly short sighted and that's not the way the Colt do business.

Let me dream goddammit.

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aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	Sorry Nightfyre, you're delusional. There's no guarantee that Manning won't take a hit on that neck of his and be done for good next year. No guarantee how long he's got left. The Colts will NOT pass up an opportunity for greatness for another decade and a half. They more than any other franchise understand the importance of the QB under center. Without Peyton, they are nothing. They will not mortage out the next 15 yrs. of their franchise for a shot in the next few. Incredibly short sighted and that's not the way the Colt do business.
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