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ShowtimeSBMVP · 01:38 PM

nfldraftscoutMatt Miller

@StampedeBlue reporting Jim Caldwell fired, Bill/Chris Polian expected to be out as well. http://sbn.to/vndmsI

mortreportChris Mortensen

Filed to ESPN: Irsay cleans house, including Bill and Chris Polian, per league source

MoreLemonPledge · 01-02-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Fire Pioli and get Bill Polian RIGHT NOW.

How about both and let their forces combine to form PIOLIAN

**MahiMike** · 01-02-2012, 01:52 PM

Guess they disagreed on #1 pick/Manning.

tk13 · 01-02-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

If they trade him, it will cost OVER $38 MILLION against the cap, THIS YEAR. It's not as cut and dry as some tend to think. I think they eventually cave in to the fact, that they already hitched their wagon to Manning. Reality sets in and they trade the pick.

It is cut and dry. Manning is due a $28 million roster bonus. They just cut him loose, save most of the money from the rest of his huge contract, and draft Luck, the end.

bricks · 01-02-2012, 01:54 PM

Just because the Colts fired Polian and Caldwell, that doesnt mean Manning is going to go. Manning is going to be a decision based on ownership. And Irsay said he plans to keep him. Do people fail to realize and understand that?

**the Talking Can** · 01-02-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

It is cut and dry. Manning is due a $28 million roster bonus. They just cut him loose, save most of the money from the rest of his huge contract, and draft Luck, the end.

and it will be an epic fail if they don't

BigChiefFan · 01-02-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Cut him before March 1 and he is not due the roster bonus or will be as big of cap hit.

I can't see them walking away from Manning. It's possible, they will, but I think Isray signs the checks and he's made it clear that Manning is his guy.

Okie_Apparition · 01-02-2012, 02:01 PM

I would think Peyton Manning would want to be cut loose
His window & the Colts don't mesh all that well
He's carried them long enough

FringeNC · 01-02-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

and it will be an epic fail if they don't

PFT suggesting that Polian was fired for wanting to draft Luck and cut ties with Manning. Irsay is a moron.

BigChiefFan · 01-02-2012, 02:04 PM

Irsay Says Colts Will Keep Manning in 2012
by the Associated Press
12/23/2011
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It doesn't look as if Peyton Manning will go anywhere next season -- unless he's not healthy.

On Thursday, Colts owner Jim Irsay told NFL Network he couldn't foresee a scenario in which Manning would play anywhere but Indianapolis unless he can't play at all.

COMPLETE COLTS COVERAGE FROM 1070 THE FAN

Manning his missed the entire season and has not participated in full team practices since having the third and most invasive surgery on his neck Sept. 8.

"I think the situation is if he's back and he's healthy, I see him coming back and playing here," Irsay said in a 10-minute interview before the game with Houston began. "I think the hope is that his health is in the position where he could return again. That remains uncertain and that's something that's first and foremost on my mind."

The signs are encouraging.

On Dec. 1, surgeon Dr. Robert Watkins issued a statement saying the fusion between two vertebrae had healed firmly and that Manning could increase the intensity of his workouts.

Last Wednesday, for the first time since having the surgery, Manning put on pads and a helmet and threw with teammates. He took snaps from center Jeff Saturday and worked with running back Joseph Addai, receiver Anthony Gonzalez and an unnamed receiver from the practice squad.

Colts vice chairman Bill Polian and coach Jim Caldwell both watched the session. Polian and Addai have given Manning good reviews.

Manning was inactive Thursday night and has already been ruled out of next week's season-finale at Jacksonville. Caldwell also said this week that Manning would continue to do individual work but would not participate in team work the rest of the season.

The only four-time MVP in league history also is due a $28 million bonus in early March -- a prospect that had some thinking Thursday night could be the final time Manning would be on the home team's sideline at Lucas Oil Stadium.

Irsay said that's not the case.

"I don't see that being an issue," Irsay said. "I paid him $26 million this season and he didn't play and I knew it was an iffy situation. If he's healthy and he can play, he'll be back here."

Irsay also said the Colts would take a quarterback, Manning's successor, if the right one is available in April's draft. The Colts (1-13) are the front-runners for the No. 1 overall pick, a slot that most analysts believe will be filled by Stanford's Andrew Luck. Another possible candidate, Southern California's Matt Barkley said Thursday that he would return to school for his senior season.

And when the season ends, Irsay acknowledged there would be plenty to evaluate -- from the top down.

"I'm concerned we came out and lost 13 games," Irsay said. "We certainly were looking to do better. In terms of evaluating things, I think you have to look at the Texans. Last year, their coach was under great fire, Bob McNair stuck with him and now he's very popular in Houston. So when the season ends, I will evaluate everything. You know I love continuity."

http://www.1070thefan.com/news/story.aspx?ID=1630585

**HemiEd** · 01-02-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

PFT suggesting that Polian was fired for wanting to draft Luck and cut ties with Manning. Irsay is a moron.

Aint it great?!

I hate the Colts almost as bad as the Raiders/Broncos.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-02-2012, 02:06 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...lians-are-out/

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Irsay is very close to Manning and there was apparent friction between the quarterback and general manager in recent weeks. Polian seemed almost certain to draft a quarterback No. 1 and had been closely tied to Andrew Luck, who yet another Polian worked with at Stanford.

Okie_Apparition · 01-02-2012, 02:06 PM

F O U R

4 1st round draft picks

scho63 · 01-02-2012, 02:23 PM

What if someone wanted to give their left lung and a leg for the #1 pick? With the total lack of depth at Indy, just maybe they trade the pick. There has been some stupid trades and someone crazy may give up a ton of picks. Indy may need that and with their position of current draft picks, they could land a boatload of great picks.

Mr_Tomahawk · 01-02-2012, 02:24 PM

Trade the farm.

We have enough room under the cap, we can go fill other holes in free agency.

BigChiefFan · 01-02-2012, 02:25 PM

Did we ever figure out the EXACT compensation it would take for us to move up? I'd give up two first rounders in a heartbeat.

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BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	Irsay Says Colts Will Keep Manning in 2012 by the Associated Press 12/23/2011 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It doesn't look as if Peyton Manning will go anywhere next season -- unless he's not healthy. On Thursday, Colts owner Jim Irsay told NFL Network he couldn't foresee a scenario in which Manning would play anywhere but Indianapolis unless he can't play at all. COMPLETE COLTS COVERAGE FROM 1070 THE FAN Manning his missed the entire season and has not participated in full team practices since having the third and most invasive surgery on his neck Sept. 8. "I think the situation is if he's back and he's healthy, I see him coming back and playing here," Irsay said in a 10-minute interview before the game with Houston began. "I think the hope is that his health is in the position where he could return again. That remains uncertain and that's something that's first and foremost on my mind." The signs are encouraging. On Dec. 1, surgeon Dr. Robert Watkins issued a statement saying the fusion between two vertebrae had healed firmly and that Manning could increase the intensity of his workouts. Last Wednesday, for the first time since having the surgery, Manning put on pads and a helmet and threw with teammates. He took snaps from center Jeff Saturday and worked with running back Joseph Addai, receiver Anthony Gonzalez and an unnamed receiver from the practice squad. Colts vice chairman Bill Polian and coach Jim Caldwell both watched the session. Polian and Addai have given Manning good reviews. Manning was inactive Thursday night and has already been ruled out of next week's season-finale at Jacksonville. Caldwell also said this week that Manning would continue to do individual work but would not participate in team work the rest of the season. The only four-time MVP in league history also is due a $28 million bonus in early March -- a prospect that had some thinking Thursday night could be the final time Manning would be on the home team's sideline at Lucas Oil Stadium. Irsay said that's not the case. "I don't see that being an issue," Irsay said. "I paid him $26 million this season and he didn't play and I knew it was an iffy situation. If he's healthy and he can play, he'll be back here." Irsay also said the Colts would take a quarterback, Manning's successor, if the right one is available in April's draft. The Colts (1-13) are the front-runners for the No. 1 overall pick, a slot that most analysts believe will be filled by Stanford's Andrew Luck. Another possible candidate, Southern California's Matt Barkley said Thursday that he would return to school for his senior season. And when the season ends, Irsay acknowledged there would be plenty to evaluate -- from the top down. "I'm concerned we came out and lost 13 games," Irsay said. "We certainly were looking to do better. In terms of evaluating things, I think you have to look at the Texans. Last year, their coach was under great fire, Bob McNair stuck with him and now he's very popular in Houston. So when the season ends, I will evaluate everything. You know I love continuity." http://www.1070thefan.com/news/story.aspx?ID=1630585 __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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