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View Poll Results: The Broncos success this season is ______ of Tebow; he has ______ future as a QB.
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Old 01-08-2012, 07:57 PM  
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Go on the record about Tebow.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:40 PM   #46
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Cassel checks down on that first play of overtime.
Not sure what that has to do with anything. Cassel is not on NFL Network and ESPN 23 hours a day.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:41 PM   #47
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One thing I've believed about Tebow since before his draft was that his best asset was his deep ball accuracy. He's always known how to improvise, but his deep ball has ALWAYS been there.
I noticed that the group that I was watching the game with often gasped audibly when Tebow let the ball go and we couldn't yet see his target in the picture. There just seems to be a constant wondering in all our minds: "Oh, holy shit. I wonder if any Broncos are there."
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:43 PM   #48
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I think the team success of the Broncos can definitely be attributed at least partially to Tim Tebow's presence. There is something to be said for having confidence in sports and these guys truly believe in their QB and their ability to win on any given day. That's what Tebow is doing for them.

Does he have a bright future as a QB in this league? I wouldn't say that...not with the way he throws, but he might be able to hold a starting job for a while provided he limits his mistakes and turnovers.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:47 PM   #49
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Accurate throws and good decisions yield better than 10/21 completion percentage.
For this game in particular his completion percentage had a lot to do with the amount of times he threw deep. Had he checked down at all or used a hot receiver his percentage would've looked better.

I've been extremely critical of Tebow and have poked fun at his 46% countless times this season, but today's game was different.

He actually played well this time. It wasn't the defense saving his ass or him having a fluke 4th Q where the defense went into prevent. He made good reads, and did a solid job throwing today.

Denver does a great job using max protection to give him time to throw as well. The offensive system is certainly tailored to make him look good.
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Old 01-08-2012, 09:57 PM   #50
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For this game in particular his completion percentage had a lot to do with the amount of times he threw deep. Had he checked down at all or used a hot receiver his percentage would've looked better.
Just the opposite. By my count, he was 6/11 on deep passes and 4/10 on short passes. He is just ineffective in making the routine throws that are the bread and butter of most QBs.
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:06 PM   #51
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:40 PM   #52
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A Tim Tebow-led team wins a playoff game...and we're here going on 19 years of absolutely nothing.

I ****ing hate football.
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Old 01-08-2012, 11:41 PM   #53
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Tebow has been a horrible QB to date. The question is and everybody knew from before him getting drafted is his mechanics, slow reading the defenses. His strength was running and leadership in college.

He was a reach as a # 1 pick. Can Elway or some QB coach change all of this? Yet to be seen, I doubt it, but if they ever can change it, he has the possibility to be a pain in the butt for years with his size and arm strength.
Thomas (the hero of our OT playoff win today) was our first pick in that draft. If you mean he was a reach as a first round pick, then yes, that's true. He went towards the bottom of the first round because McDaniels thought that at least one team was targeting him at the top of the second.

But one of Josh McDaniels' weaknesses as a Head Coach was that he locked on to specific players and went after them. He went after Tebow and Moreno because he wanted them, and he reached for both. Moreno never has had a strong impact on this team and he's heading into "bust" territory simply because he was reached for.

Tebow on the other hand...I think you'd have to be an idiot to think he can't get any better at this point. He started three games last year. He became the starter halfway through the fifth game this year. That's it. That's his NFL experience. He gets more credit than he deserves for the wins, and he gets more blame than he deserves for the losses. That comes with being the QB. No big deal. He can handle it, and we haven't seen anything yet.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:20 AM   #54
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Ike Taylor got off the plane in Denver and told himself he was going to have far and away his worst game as a professional football player. He achieved that, and then some.

Thanks for the next week of listening to all the Tebow bullshit, Ike. You prick.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:49 AM   #55
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Ike Taylor got off the plane in Denver and told himself he was going to have far and away his worst game as a professional football player. He achieved that, and then some.

Thanks for the next week of listening to all the Tebow bullshit, Ike. You prick.
It was actually the saftey's fault for creeping down, but whatever.
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It was actually the saftey's fault for creeping down, but whatever.
On the last play, correct. But the rest of the game is on Ike.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:31 AM   #57
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Tebow is better than cassel. We can hate because he is a Bronco, but it was him that threw those TD's. He may not be drop back passer right now, but wait he will get better. I just hope we have our QB by then and a better D then the Broncos to be competitive.
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Tebow is better than cassel. We can hate because he is a Bronco, but it was him that threw those TD's. He may not be drop back passer right now, but wait he will get better. I just hope we have our QB by then and a better D then the Broncos to be competitive.
I'd argue that we already do.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:35 AM   #59
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Got to hand it to Fox, for playing with the cards he was dealt. ClevelandBronco's post is most accurate: Tebow is an enigma. The way the inside option was run, is an indicator. He is a FB that can heave the ball.
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Got to hand it to Fox, for playing with the cards he was dealt. ClevelandBronco's post is most accurate: Tebow is an enigma. The way the inside option was run, is an indicator. He is a FB that can heave the ball.
What is so sad about this is they have a fullback that is better at qb then cassel is at qb.
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