Mayock says Poe reminds him of Haloti Ngata

[Quesadilla Joe]

Mike Mayock on Memphis DL Dontari Poe, says he reminds him of Haloti Ngata potential. 'He's that big, but he's so raw it's scary.'

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[RealSNR]

What a nose is SUPPOSED to look like: fat, slow, but immovable. Don't let the interior line gain any push for pocket formation. That's EXACTLY what Ta'amu would do for us.

It's what's missing from Poe's college footage.

If Ta'amu could do exactly what he does in this highlight reel for us against NFL talent, we would be set. Our linebackers, as good as they are, would be SCARY good. And Dorsey and Jackson might actually get in the backfield and make plays.

I've never been more convinced of any player that we need to take in this draft if the opportunity arises. Reach for him in the 1st if you have to. I don't care. He's worth it.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by SNR

He got owned by Baylor during their Bowl game, I'd pass on him

[BigChiefFan]

We need the big mofo at NT for our scheme. Poe looks like the pick, IMO.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by SNR

He sucks. If he's getting pushed around like that against Tulane-level talent, he's going to bust out of the pros.

Oddly enough, he looked better when he moved over to an end position on a 3 man front and when he didn't play so damn high.

The tape wasn't impressive, but I don't see anything that couldn't be corrected. He needs to play lower on every snap and develop moves/counter moves. On one play he did a pretty sick spin move to side step the OG and apply pressure. He'll definitely be a project.

[buddha]

Originally Posted by SNR

What a nose is SUPPOSED to look like: fat, slow, but immovable. Don't let the interior line gain any push for pocket formation. That's EXACTLY what Ta'amu would do for us.

It's what's missing from Poe's college footage.

If Ta'amu could do exactly what he does in this highlight reel for us against NFL talent, we would be set. Our linebackers, as good as they are, would be SCARY good. And Dorsey and Jackson might actually get in the backfield and make plays.

I've never been more convinced of any player that we need to take in this draft if the opportunity arises. Reach for him in the 1st if you have to. I don't care. He's worth it.

WORD. I like this guy much more than Poe.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Oddly enough, he looked better when he moved over to an end position on a 3 man front and when he didn't play so damn high.

The tape wasn't impressive, but I don't see anything that couldn't be corrected. He needs to play lower on every snap and develop moves/counter moves. On one play he did a pretty sick spin move to side step the OG and apply pressure. He'll definitely be a project.

If Poe was available in the 6th round like Jerell Powe I'd be excited about that project. We're talking about taking him in the 1st.

Pioli (as fat as he's been about the QB position) has done very well drafting for this team, and it's because he didn't take "project" players with high draft picks. Even though Tyson Jackson absolutely turned into one of those players, the thing about him coming out of college was that he'd be immediately ready to start as a 3-4 DE. That's why Pioli liked him. Thankfully I don't see us parting from that tradition.

Our NT position right now includes a project player one year into his career and a tweener. We need a guy who's got a much higher floor than Poe.

[suds79]

Because I'm over Poe. He just hasn't played like a 1st rounder.

I think the Chiefs have to target Alameda Ta'amu as a must draft at some point. (not sure yet where he's projected). Simply running out of pure NTs big enough to play the position.

[DJ's left nut]

Ta'amu is starting to look like a great 2nd rounder for us and I believe he will make it that far. There just aren't a lot of teams out there still running a 2-gap 3-4 that desperately need a NT.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ta'amu is starting to look like a great 2nd rounder for us and I believe he will make it that far. There just aren't a lot of teams out there still running a 2-gap 3-4 that desperately need a NT.

the problem Ta'mu his play and his skill set is more like a 3 tech instead of a true NT/NG

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

the problem Ta'mu his play and his skill set is more like a 3 tech instead of a true NT/NG

Really? I don't see it.

The dude is 6'3'' and 350. That's certainly big enough to play the 0. In fact, the fact that he has some burst can only help him in that regard; allowing him to fire off the ball a little bit quicker to help get his pads down.

It's not like he's playing at 315; you may have a point if that were the case. But the dude absolutely has the size for the 0. And his skill set is there as well, provided that he's willing to use it.

The only question would really be whether or not he could be coached to play a less aggressive, more 'gap-sound' form of DT. I don't see anything in his history to suggest he couldn't.

I'm with most of the thread; I like him a TON more than Poe and he's going to go later it would appear.

[Chiefnj2]

KC should still sign Garay in free agency.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Really? I don't see it.

The dude is 6'3'' and 350. That's certainly big enough to play the 0. In fact, the fact that he has some burst can only help him in that regard; allowing him to fire off the ball a little bit quicker to help get his pads down.

It's not like he's playing at 315; you may have a point if that were the case. But the dude absolutely has the size for the 0. And his skill set is there as well, provided that he's willing to use it.

The only question would really be whether or not he could be coached to play a less aggressive, more 'gap-sound' form of DT. I don't see anything in his history to suggest he couldn't.

I'm with most of the thread; I like him a TON more than Poe and he's going to go later it would appear.

Size isn't an issue, It's his style of play he's more of a "gap shooter" than a rock in the middle the Stanford and Baylor games are a perfect example. He plays with good footwork, but at times disappears and doesn't hold his ground well when going against elite maulers or strong Interior linemen. If you saw the Baylor bowl game was brutal for him.

[DJ's left nut]

But isn't that again just a coaching issue?

What do you see that suggests he can't be a 2-gap? We know that a lot of the time he didn't play that way in college, but it doesn't appear to be a motor issue (Poe) or a size issue (Brockers). It just looks to me like he was asked to do something different from what we do, so that's what he did.

In the meantime, his motor is good for a big man and his size/skills are perfect to become an elite 2-gap NT.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

But isn't that again just a coaching issue?

What do you see that suggests he can't be a 2-gap? We know that a lot of the time he didn't play that way in college, but it doesn't appear to be a motor issue (Poe) or a size issue (Brockers). It just looks to me like he was asked to do something different from what we do, so that's what he did.

In the meantime, his motor is good for a big man and his size/skills are perfect to become an elite 2-gap NT.

from what I read on the kid off the field he's not real big self starter and lets himself go ( ballooned up to 400+ pounds in one offseason) and went on a stretch of games in which he was a non factor. The more I read about him outside what I saw on the field gives me doubts that he could be in some degree Ryan Sims esque.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The nose whisperer hath spoken.