just more speculation about RGIII

[tooge]

Well, at least they mention the chiefs


Robert Griffin trade rumors already spinning out of control
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 28, 2012, 4:04 PM EST

APForget the Combine. Forget free agency. Robert Griffin III trade chatter dominates the NFL discussion these days.

And it’s still February.

Perhaps Rams COO Kevin Demoff is right: It’s getting less crazy to imagine a deal could be completed before free agency. We’ve read and heard an unprecedented amount of trade rumors about the No. 2 overall pick for this time of year.

Let’s go over the latest:

1. Mike Jones of the Washington Post writes the Redskins would give up the No. 6 overall pick and next year’s first round pick in addition to multiple picks in the mid-to-upper rounds of the draft. Consider this the starting point for negotiations.

The Rams are reportedly looking for a similar package to the one San Diego netted for Eli Manning: Two firsts (including the No. 4 overall pick), a third- and fifth-round pick. The Redskins sound ready to meet this demand.

2. Texas A&M prospect Ryan Tannehill is watching the Griffin talk closely. Jones believes the Redskins would take Tannehill at No. 6 overal if they can’t get Griffin.

3. Terry Pluto of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer believes the Browns will ultimately have to give up three first-round picks in order to land Griffin. Do I hear four, Redskins? (This reminds us of a classic article by the Onion.)

4. Demoff told Peter King of SI.com that the Rams received a feeler from a team “you would never expect.” Does Kansas City count? If not, we’ll roll with Philadelphia as our irresponsible guess for a mystery team. Enter your pick below.

5. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch considers the Redskins the early favorite to land Griffin. This sounds true based on all the reports, plus Mike Shanahan’s close relationship with Jeff Fisher.

[Donger]

Is it known that there will be a QB comparable to Luck or RGIII in next year's draft (or the next year) at this point?

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Donger

Is it known that there will be a QB comparable to Luck or RGIII in next year's draft (or the next year) at this point?

Barkley is the top prospect for '13. Not at Luck's standard. Totally different player from RGIII.

[O.city]

Say we gave up what ever we had to give up to get this guy 3 years ago.


Over the last three years our first rounders have been Jackson, Berry, and Baldwin. We just won 7 games without Berry and with a part or less time Baldwin. Jackson had a good year but he wasn't an all pro.

Now, say you put RGIII on this team last year. If he is what they think he is or think he will be, what would the Chiefs record have been?

At this point, where the Chiefs are on both sides of the ball, where do we need to focus our drafting? We could essentially get what we need, (depth) if we were or are smart about 3 and later round picks, that we could potentially keep.

Also something to think about is that if we did trade up and give up a ton, those draft picks wouldn't have to be paid. That could give us money to keep our own guys.


I dunno, I don't think it's smart to be giving up all those picks, but if they did, you won't hear a complaint from me.

[TRR]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You're putting arbitrary distinctions on the value, much like posters who claim that, essentially, trading away a draft could set a franchise back "six years." Not five, not seven. Six.

The math is hard and fast on this fact.

If you can acquire a true franchise QB, there's damn near no price too steep. And this price sure as **** isn't one single draft, though I know we'd desperately miss all of the McClusters and Arenaseseses of the world.

It's a BIG "IF."
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[The Franchise]

If RGIII gets us to the playoffs (or close)...our 1st round pick next year will be worth dick.

I would give up our 1st and 2nd picks this year and our 1st next year to get RGIII.

[DeezNutz]

If you sit back and think about it, where would this franchise be without Tyson Jackson and the (CP) all-world production from Baldwin, who, apparently, registered the most impressive 21-catch season in NFL ****ing history.

Bowe (and his 70 reception rookie year and consistent production)? Shit. Baldwin? Money.

Get the franchise QB. Worry about the details later.

[The Franchise]

Sign Paul Soliai in FA.
Trade up RGIII.
Grab a RT in the 3rd round.

[Epic Fail 007]

Originally Posted by Guru

NO way Pioli gives up the draft for one guy. No matter how good he potentially could be.

Nore should he thats completely stupid and immature thinking.

[Urc Burry]

We have enough cap space to compensate for losing some draft picks

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by eric007

Nore should he thats completely stupid and immature thinking.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Get the franchise QB. Worry about the details later.

.

[Okie_Apparition]

Originally Posted by SportsRacer

No team has ever traded that much for a quarterback and gone on to win two Super Bowls with that quarterback as the Super Bowl MVP in each of them.

They had Philip RIvers
I'm not convinced they wouldn't have been better off keeping him & the draft picks
or maybe that should be no worse off..

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If you sit back and think about it, where would this franchise be without Tyson Jackson and the (CP) all-world production from Baldwin, who, apparently, registered the most impressive 21-catch season in NFL ****ing history.

Bowe (and his 70 reception rookie year and consistent production)? Shit. Baldwin? Money.

Get the franchise QB. Worry about the details later.

That's not a perfect example because based on what we've seen from Tyson Jackson and what we've seen from Mark Sanchez, it's starting to look like the Chiefs made out better. Jackson is a very good player who will be starting for the Chiefs 3 years from now. It's possible Sanchez in 3 years will either be a bench player or a QB who holds you back from doing the things you want to do. As for Baldwin... well, now you're getting into the argument about whether we need to get a top 5 QB or if we could just wait for an Andy Dalton type QB to come around.

[Okie_Apparition]

Eli or keep Rivers next years 1st & whatever pick they took Keading with

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's not a perfect example because based on what we've seen from Tyson Jackson and what we've seen from Mark Sanchez, it's starting to look like the Chiefs made out better. Jackson is a very good player who will be starting for the Chiefs 3 years from now. It's possible Sanchez in 3 years will either be a bench player or a QB who holds you back from doing the things you want to do. As for Baldwin... well, now you're getting into the argument about whether we need to get a top 5 QB or if we could just wait for an Andy Dalton type QB to come around.

No idea how that relates to Baldwin, who has shown precious little in KC, other than a great catch that was called back.

As for Jackson/Sanchez, it could be that TJ ends up being the better of these two. However, once Pioli made the move to Cassel, I think the selection should have been Raji, and it should have been a no-brainer.