Chiefs Do You Have Any Expectations This Week? - Page 4

**gblowfish** · 10-12-2012, 10:40 AM

I'm glad the Chiefs are on the road this weekend. I have lots of other stuff to do on Sunday, including getting my yard ready for winter.

I'll watch the game, but really have no expectations of winning or even playing well.

How are you feeling about it?

**Donger** · 10-12-2012, 11:59 AM

The general consensus among fans seems to be that the Chiefs require a QB who was picked in the first round. Well, here you go.

BoneKrusher · 10-12-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

The general consensus among fans seems to be that the Chiefs require a QB who was picked in the first round. Well, here you go.

not only is Quinn a first rounder, he has never been on a roster this full of talent before.
if he sucks than he sucks but as for today, i have hopes he'll do well.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i think they will after Pioli is fired, not before.

Well not picking a QB in the first round was going on a long time before Pioli was on board.
In fact, they have only done it twice in the history of the franchise that I recall.
Steve Fuller in 79 and Todd Blackledge in 83 if I remember correctly. Am I forgetting someone? Please correct me if I am missing someone.

They took a few later round pokes at it, like David Jaynes, Brodie Croyle and Stanzi, but not any other firsts.

BoneKrusher · 10-12-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Well not picking a QB in the first round was going on a long time before Pioli was on board.
In fact, they have only done it twice in the history of the franchise that I recall.
Steve Fuller in 79 and Todd Blackledge in 83 if I remember correctly. Am I forgetting someone? Please correct me if I am missing someone.

They took a few later round pokes at it, like David Jaynes, Brodie Croyle and Stanzi, but not any other firsts.

maybe it was Lamar's wishes since he got burned so bad with Todd Blackledge.

times have changed, if you dont have a great quarterback in todays NFL you're ****ed.

with a smart GM, we'll see a top tier quarterback drafted in KC.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

not only is Quinn a first rounder, he has never been on a roster this full of talent before.
if he sucks than he sucks but as for today, i have hopes he'll do well.

I agree, and remember hoping the Chiefs would get him in the draft that Cleveland moved back up and got him. So far the one series looked pretty promising.

scho63 · 10-12-2012, 12:10 PM

If Quinn plays great and Chiefs win, I think that assures us that Cassel is gone. If Quinn sucks and we lose, Cassel will probably be our starter again against the Raiders and that really would suck.

I'm rooting for Quinn to do great to make Cassel and Pioli look worse than they already do.

suds79 · 10-12-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Berry is rusty from a year off and new muscles in the knee.

He should come around any game now.

Am I the only one who remembers Berry not being that great in coverage his rookie year also???

I don't think it's a knee thing.

**HemiEd** · 10-12-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

maybe it was Lamar's wishes since he got burned so bad with Todd Blackledge.

times have changed, if you dont have a great quarterback in todays NFL you're ****ed.

with a smart GM, we'll see a top tier quarterback drafted in KC.

I have said that a few times. I can visualize Lamar (RIP) on his death bed whispering to Clark "never, ever, draft a QB in the first as long as you run this team."

I am not sure times have changed, you have pretty much needed a top tier QB all along, thus the lack of success in KC.
Medicore QBs have resulted in mediocrity, and the only two QBs to win a playoff game since the SB win 42 years ago are Steve DeBerg and Joe Montana.
Again, I am going from memory, so feel free to point out my oversights.

BoneKrusher · 10-12-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

If Quinn plays great and Chiefs win, I think that assures us that Cassel is gone. If Quinn sucks and we lose, Cassel will probably be our starter again against the Raiders and that really would suck.

I'm rooting for Quinn to do great to make Cassel and Pioli look worse than they already do.

this 1000 x.

Ace Gunner · 10-12-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'm hoping to God that Daboll and RAC open up the playbook. They have a QB that can throw the ball......****ing use him.

Ya, especially considering the situation at RB plus the Bucs defense is a decent run stopper. If they want this one, they need the QB to make plays in the red zone.

**RealSNR** · 10-12-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

7-9. Landry Jones.

Expect nothing more.

This losing season is my last vestige of hope.

Don't shit on me.

**The Franchise** · 10-12-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

If Quinn plays great and Chiefs win, I think that assures us that Cassel is gone. If Quinn sucks and we lose, Cassel will probably be our starter again against the Raiders and that really would suck.

I'm rooting for Quinn to do great to make Cassel and Pioli look worse than they already do.

Cassel coming back and sucking is a win-win situation for us. It further proves that he's horrible and that Pioli is a ****ing fool for trading for him.

**gblowfish** · 10-12-2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Well not picking a QB in the first round was going on a long time before Pioli was on board.
In fact, they have only done it twice in the history of the franchise that I recall.
Steve Fuller in 79 and Todd Blackledge in 83 if I remember correctly. Am I forgetting someone? Please correct me if I am missing someone.

They took a few later round pokes at it, like David Jaynes, Brodie Croyle and Stanzi, but not any other firsts.

Pete Beathard from USC in 1964, drafted in the first round of AFL draft. He was Dawson's back up.

We've had other QBs that were other teams first round picks as well:

Cotton Davidson - Baltimore
Len Dawson - Pittsburgh
Jacky Lee - Houston

Brady Quinn is the 7th "First Round QB" to start a game for KC.

Ace Gunner · 10-12-2012, 12:49 PM

Oh, and as for my expectations, I expect this defense to take it up another notch with Rapoti at RDE. He gives this defense the range and mobility at the RDE position, he can motor for a big man and he has real long arms that he uses well.

I expect DJ to play well again. Last week he was somewhat invisible, but he played well because he maintained gap control causing the Raven offense to go strongside with the run game and under routes. It shuts out half the field on the opposing offense.

I liked RC put Berry back in the C2 style because Berry has the jets and vision to play in a split deep safety backfield. He plays best from there. So, I hope they keep doing that with Berry.

I expect the Bucs will double up on Houston, he's just wrecking shit now, whether it's strongside pass coverage, playing the run or when he blitzes the QB. He is so fundamentally sound in the way he plays and maintains gaps. Really pleased with Houston. He's going to be great. But, this week presents a challenge -- looking forward to how he handles it.

Quinn is playing quick, I like that a lot and it's just a necessity in the NFL because everyone is so quick. He throws a hard ball, I used to have a QB that was like this and as a WR I liked it because it gave me a chance to turn up field quickly and that made my YAC go up quite a bit. But, you got to have soft hands to catch those zippy passes.

Jamaal, just hoping he stays healthy. The other backs are banged, so he's on his own this time. They'll play, but he's going to be the real player tomorrow. Hoping to see him split wide more than usual.

Brandon Albert will have his work cut out.

Same with Asamoah.

Field position is going to be huge in this one, would be good to see ST make some plays this time. I am not liking this ST coach so far. He adjusted, they played better last week. Need more. Copper is banged too, so this will be a challenge.

Killer Bees. Please stand up. Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin. All should be available. Show me some points, suckers. They block well, they really do. But, hey, can we get some points in your hands. That's what needs done.

That RT needs to shut his trap and play some ball. Tired of it now.

That's all I got.

NJChiefsFan · 10-12-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

If Quinn plays great and Chiefs win, I think that assures us that Cassel is gone. If Quinn sucks and we lose, Cassel will probably be our starter again against the Raiders and that really would suck.

I'm rooting for Quinn to do great to make Cassel and Pioli look worse than they already do.

There is a large danger in this though. We don't want Pioli going into the offseason saying hey we found a QB and its Brady Quinn. Its tough for this scenario to work out great for KC. The season is lost. At this point its about making it obvious we don't have a QB and also being in a position to get one. Brady going on a mini run puts a major cramp in that plan.

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Ace Gunner First Overall Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: kcmo Casino cash: $10007271	Oh, and as for my expectations, I expect this defense to take it up another notch with Rapoti at RDE. He gives this defense the range and mobility at the RDE position, he can motor for a big man and he has real long arms that he uses well. I expect DJ to play well again. Last week he was somewhat invisible, but he played well because he maintained gap control causing the Raven offense to go strongside with the run game and under routes. It shuts out half the field on the opposing offense. I liked RC put Berry back in the C2 style because Berry has the jets and vision to play in a split deep safety backfield. He plays best from there. So, I hope they keep doing that with Berry. I expect the Bucs will double up on Houston, he's just wrecking shit now, whether it's strongside pass coverage, playing the run or when he blitzes the QB. He is so fundamentally sound in the way he plays and maintains gaps. Really pleased with Houston. He's going to be great. But, this week presents a challenge -- looking forward to how he handles it. Quinn is playing quick, I like that a lot and it's just a necessity in the NFL because everyone is so quick. He throws a hard ball, I used to have a QB that was like this and as a WR I liked it because it gave me a chance to turn up field quickly and that made my YAC go up quite a bit. But, you got to have soft hands to catch those zippy passes. Jamaal, just hoping he stays healthy. The other backs are banged, so he's on his own this time. They'll play, but he's going to be the real player tomorrow. Hoping to see him split wide more than usual. Brandon Albert will have his work cut out. Same with Asamoah. Field position is going to be huge in this one, would be good to see ST make some plays this time. I am not liking this ST coach so far. He adjusted, they played better last week. Need more. Copper is banged too, so this will be a challenge. Killer Bees. Please stand up. Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin. All should be available. Show me some points, suckers. They block well, they really do. But, hey, can we get some points in your hands. That's what needs done. That RT needs to shut his trap and play some ball. Tired of it now. That's all I got. __________________ The Greatest
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